Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram after the Department of Homeland Security suggested they may pursue arrests of three Democratic lawmakers who partook in a protest outside of an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ), Rob Menendez (D-NJ) and LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) all attended the protest.

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    I’m watching all this from the sidelines… Damn, you’re just perfect for being used. Crowd brain. You don’t even think about it… Your Republicans are bad because they said so and you are supposedly Democrats…
    As a person who has suffered from the actions of your state and your politicians - you really don’t know and don’t want to understand the truth! Your Democrats are not white and fluffy at all… My God, you are fed slogans and you believe them. But you only blame the Republicans or Trump 🤦🏼‍♀️ And you don’t see anything at all in your “favorites”. Politicians always and everywhere use people! But at least Trump is not guilty of millions of deaths and money laundering, as well as corruption and pumping money out of other independent states! Yes, he is a businessman, yes, he is a devil, but he does it a little more humanely… And he did not just decide to destroy a nation to harm another. After all, he is a businessman, and not like your typical politician who built a career on the Cold War! And they can’t live any other way. And if they also launder a ton of money, then everything is perfect. The main thing is let others die, but not the “great” democrats… pandering to dictators who spit on all norms and human rights! You are like those from the EU - greens - pour soup over historical value, works of art - that’s a piece of cake. And the fact that wars harm the planet much more - who cares! And when unique endemics are destroyed, flora and habitats of fauna listed as endangered species in various conventions! Oh yeah, cutting down the Amazon forests for the sake of holding a climate change forum - that’s hypocrisy and double standards!!! Think about it and start studying more, not just slogans and articles from your paid media. Or have you already forgotten about WikiLeaks??? So study the “great Biden” and search for Alexander Dubininsky on Twitter. Why is he being held in jail, illegally and without reason. For the truth and investigation! And oh, your Democrats are no better than Republicans. By the way, Gramm is also a bought character… There was enough evidence, but as always, great Democrats - in particular their friends in the EU are blocking YouTube channels so that Ukrainian citizens do not know the truth, since the usurper decided that he can impose sanctions against his citizens without trial or investigation 🤦🏼‍♀️🤬 Well, alas, they are now making a lot of profit. But smart people know the reasons very well, and who is who in the end. But no, you will now accuse me, like the usurper, of being “pro-Russian”… 😂 May all those who accuse me and those same Russians live my life and the lives of many others who died and lost everything in this war! A war of influence, money, control and ambition! It’s disgusting!

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      I get that you’re angry, and honestly, a lot of your frustration is valid. Politicians everywhere use people. That’s not new. And yes, both parties in the U.S. have done harm—abroad and at home. But painting Trump as some kind of honest businessman who’s just misunderstood? That’s not the truth either.

      Let’s be real. Trump is a politician. He ran for office, made policy, appointed judges, and used the system to his advantage. Saying “he’s just a businessman” is a branding trick, not a fact. And his record is full of grift, manipulation, and a ton of legal problems that didn’t come from nowhere. His company was convicted of tax fraud. That’s not some media smear—it happened in court.

      And if we’re going to talk about war and foreign meddling, let’s not pretend Republicans are innocent. Bush started a war in Iraq based on lies, destabilized an entire region, and caused hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. That blood doesn’t wash off just because people hate Biden now. If you’re truly anti-war, your anger should be aimed at the whole military-industrial mess, not just the Democrats.

      As for the media being “paid off”—sure, bias exists. But “they all lie” isn’t a serious argument. That just pushes people into echo chambers where they only believe what they already want to hear. The answer is to read widely, cross-check things, and use basic critical thinking. Not to declare the entire idea of journalism dead.

      On that Dubinsky point—he got hit for pushing Russian disinfo during the U.S. election. If there’s something unjust about his detention, that’s a Ukrainian legal issue. It’s not the fault of American Democrats. And let’s not pretend Putin’s hands are clean in any of this either. You can’t call out one side for abuse of power while giving authoritarian regimes a free pass.

      And that thing about climate protestors and soup on art? Yeah, it’s a dumb stunt. But it’s not even close to being on the same level as war or environmental collapse. You can disagree with their tactics without making false comparisons.

      Look, nobody with half a brain thinks Democrats are saints. But Trump is not some noble outsider who plays by a better code. He just plays a different game—one that’s openly corrupt, chaotic, and fueled by ego. He didn’t dismantle the system. He used it. And now he wants back in to finish the job.

      You can hate the system. A lot of people do. But don’t let that hatred blind you into thinking one corrupt actor is better just because he talks louder or waves the flag harder.

      People who’ve suffered from war and political games deserve the truth, not just another version of someone else’s propaganda.

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    Mmkay. Keep drawing lines and saying “I’m warning you!”. Fuckin do something now. Quit yelling at them to stop, and make them stop. If this is all that can be done we are turbofucked.

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      In fairness, this is her doing something. She can’t impeach and remove trump by herself. She has to win over republicans. If she can get to some who will realize that if trump will arrest dems he doesn’t like, he will do the same to republicans, then she can win. It’s the same tactic poloticians have been using, polarize the voters. Just in this case the voters are congress. Side note, you can shorten democrats to dems. But if you shorten republicans to reps you could still be talking about dems, because they are all representatives. How annoying.

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    Americans in a literal fascist state be like: This is literally fascism

    they’re trapped in a Cassandra‑like tautology: forewarning what has already come to pass

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    You can discuss all you want, they can be members of Congress or what ever but unfortunately we don’t have a Congress and we are already in a dictatorship, even if you brand it as fascism. I saw the video posted by Hasan Piker. If you listen carefully the question he was asked to answer by customs agents it shows we’re in a dictatorship.

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    What? You don’t have a problem already? Stop drawing lines. They’ve already crossed enough of them.

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      Look for a video Hasan Piker posted on IG. He explains that customs agents ask him if he had ever said anything wrong against Trump. That’s a sign we’re already in a dictatorship. You can call it fascism but it’s a dictatorship where you can’t say anything wrong against the supreme leader or you get punished for it. CBP agents asking if someone has ever said anything against Trump is a sign of dictatorship.

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        Absolutely. I feel like it reminds me of some dystopian show, asking people on their visit if they’ve engaged in anti-XYZ person activities etc. Hasan is a scumbag for his worship of russia, but he is right this time. This is a dictatorship, and it’s spreading fast.

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    After watching that video, there already is a problem. Assaulting an elected official is a felony and the ICE officer that did this needs to be up on charges.

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    The Democrats have shown that they intend to continue to lose and will not take meaningful action to protect the public, it’s pathetic

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    Ma’am, with the greatest and utmost possible respect, the rest of the world submits that you people already have several problems.

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    There are going to be so many furrowed brows.

    I hope they don’t need to write another Strongly Worded Letter!

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      I’m honestly more mad at the Dems at this point for just continuing to do nothing while the right runs roughshod over the law and the people.

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    If you come for my constituents, stop no…

    If you come for our mayors, that’s unfortunate.

    Threaten our governors? So sad, horrible, can nothing be done?

    Come for me? We’re going to have a problem.

    None fo the Dems are going to do shit until they come for them directly, a year after it’s too late to do shit.

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        The oligarchs have the population exactly where they want them to be: poor, unhealthy, divided and unable to mount a concrete unified resistance.

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          the whole US population has been indoctrinated to believe non-violent action is effective and the only thing thats acceptable. fucking strange for a country that is so hardcore 2a.

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            Despite the perception that we are a country of cowboys, not all of us believe that the solution to our problems is to go out and start killing people.

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              Republicans successfully storm the Capitol and split the country Extremely successful. Trump’s fascist approach and his supporters are also very successful.
              You so " how do you think something like that is successful! Peace Dude here some flowers please be nice again or I’ll go on a peaceful protest… that’ll show you what’s up!"
              His false claims of election tampering succeeded ( clearly even if no election fraud could be proven Trump had achieved what he wanted ).
              Your so “we accept the election… We don’t even think about the Republicans rigging the election or anything else… we’ll let the Republicans do it easier… how we want to protect our democracy? Here’s some flowers!!!”

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              Which is cool and all, but fascism has never been beaten in a peaceful manner. Fascists don’t give a shit about how peaceful or honorable you are. They’ll strip you of your rights, imprison anyone who disagrees, and murder the people they don’t like.

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                Well you can go out there and brandish a firearm at gesticulates vaguely all you want then. Let me know how that works out for you.

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                  I’m not american, so thankfully I’m not in a position to, but either you lay down, and let them do whatever they want to do like the ordinary germans in the 1930’s, or you stand against it, because freedom and democracy is worth dying for. If democracy isn’t worth dying for, then you won’t ever be able to have it.

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              What makes you think you have to kill people? Why not just sink their yachts, burn their planes and homes? Dox them. Shut down airports with drones – nationally. Burn their warehouses, datacenters, factories. Hack their computers and steal their money. Etc… etc…

              Americans are so indoctrinated that they think killing is the natural next progression of peaceful protests.

              Humiliating them is much more damaging to their stupid movement.

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                I want you to read their comments and tell me that isn’t the conclusion. Don’t pull that internet argument bullshit. You know damn well what they mean - they’ve even confirmed it as I repeatedly said that’s what they’re saying.

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        You first 🤷‍♂️

        I get this seems flippant but truly, I see so many “we need a general strike” and “we should be protesting/rioting” comments but whenever a protest or something is done people go “look at the neolibs patting themselves on the back” from the safety of their keyboards.

        What have you done lately? What have any of us done lately? We’re all sitting around waiting for someone else to go “get out there and do it!” It’s not going to happen. We have to organize. And here’s the unfortunate truth: Organizing isn’t sexy. It takes a LOT of work and you get told “no” a lot. I find it very hard to participate sometimes. But we all have to do it rather than smash our keyboards about it.

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    Tell me, did she also sLaM him? I’m fucking sick of this posturing, do something already

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      Ugh there’s so much of this obnoxious shit on YouTube. “Person A DEMOLISHES Trump in front of Setting B!” And then the video is literally just someone saying the same shit everyone is saying and Trump isn’t even there. Or like “Watch Republican mortified as they realize they screwed themselves by electing Trump” and there’s literally zero self reflection or regret.

      There are so many videos and headlines that are literally just feeding on the clickbait potential of people waiting for a substantial response to this complete mess. Hypothetical dunking on people who aren’t even in the room or don’t react at all isn’t the victory people seem to like to advertise it as.

      And then they like fully miss an actual town hall in a Republican district booing the shit out of some MAGA toolbox.

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      I was about to write they need to make an offense first.
      But you are right, they already did that, by preventing legal oversight.
      That shouldn’t be allowed to pass.

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        And 1000 other things. It’s long past time for them to “have a problem”. Put up or shut up AOC.

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    Hold up - they participated in the protest? Or they showed up and required a tour of the facility, which is their right as federal lawmakers?

    What I saw indicated only the latter? Did they actually participate in the protest?

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      I have no idea but whether they did or not is irrelevant.

      Protesting is constitutionally protected speech even for lawmakers, and has no bearing on their rights as elected officials to tour those facilities.