We need to get better at driving people to these comments and just fucking trolling the ever living fuck out of them until their voice is drowned

But we’re in a digital world. Using paper in a digital age is like bringing a horse to Nascar. The left is hung up on this romanticized vision of coffee shop activism. It’s destroying us. Those solutions worked for the time they existed in. If don’t adapt we’re finished

“Effective” is the key word. Way to go jumping over that.

The progressive victories are dependent on MAGA shitting the bedding rather than from progressive doing the ground work. As it has always been. Where have you ever seen a progressive victory that wasn’t directly a result of people becoming disenfranchised after they realized the opposition they voted for turned out to be frauds?

Zine zines.

They are a solution people took back in the day to self publish. Publishing company’s act like moderators did back in the day. They rejected this arbitrarily and gate kept what people saw. So people would create zines of their interests and leave them all over town. Some became super popular

Because progressives do not do the ground work. Not effectively. It’s as if taking people who are social outcasts and asking them to compete in a battle of popularity puts them at a disadvantage.

But now is a good time. The left is yet again winning victories only because the right have fucked up so bad that people now want change.

No, you can still push for change in the party. But don’t tell people to not vote strategically when it matters. What very literally the last election was people deciding not to vote for Hilary rather than people voting for Trump. And now women can’t get abortions. The Supreme Court will never side for the left for the rest of your entire life. Saudis are getting nukes. Russia and Ukraine are still at war. Plus there is a new Iran war that added thousands of dollars of expenses to bills annually. And the MAGA donors and Trump have all enriched themselves at a scale that means even after he his long gone, the government will still answer to them. The left were led towards defeat by our own people.

You people are so out of touch it’s not funny. You don’t fuck around with the big elections. You need to show small scale success and build up. You get your Mamdanis. You build networks and communities with shit you don’t believe in, not because you want them to win. You need MAGA to lose. The left are made of the worst procrastinating arch types who fail at most tasks in life. Like this needs serious self reflection. You don’t have the backing of billionaires so you need grass roots. Instead the left sit around until it’s the big game and you hope ideals push you to victory. Then when you lose you blame everything but yourselves. The reason Trump won is as much the fault of leftist voters as it is the right

Wasn’t this the purpose of zines?

No it won’t. This is such an insane comment as if you just haven’t existed in the real world for the past 10 years. Democracy is broken and when we have the landscape that we currently do, your idea is the worst advice possible. People need to lock in and vote strategically. It’s only after you have stability that anyone should do what you suggest. But until then there are serious consequences for following advice like yours. There are some things that if you fail today, you’ll never get another chance the rest of your life. Things don’t just go back to some baseline because you feel it in heart that you can ignore the current political situation. Historically it is more likely to fail and create suffering. Vote to win, not for feeling good

Who was? I think people were more excited it wasn’t PPA

I am going to assume the strategy by MAGA will be to allow this to fester. Then towards the next election they’ll start astro turfing and building communities to identify the most insane ones and then amplify those voices to their base and the general public.

Do we prepare?

No. Let it happen. Every time. Go out there and slash those tires of random people trying to get to work in the morning r/fuckcars

Mods today are not what mods where originally used for. Hell does anyone remember what the original point of up and down voting was for.

Originally we held a strong belief that the community should control moderation while mods were there to make sure nothing illegal or crazy was posted.

We also didn’t call people arguing “trolling” but that changed so mods could remove anyone they didn’t agree with. It’s disgusting that we accepted it.

Are you guys fucking nuts?

You can’t even utilize the tools giving to you to muster a solid defense online. You’re all just showing up everyday giving up/down votes and reading your daily alloted news article about Trump in your over moderate hug box.

You probably had to review multiple rules just to post this message in case you pissed off some almost homeless 18 year old moderator. I know the instinct is to say fuck me over this stuff. But think how moderation is actually a tool to destroy creativity, originality and effort. Moderation is a tool created by corporations to sanitize the internet so it could be sold piecemeal to advertisers. But what this also does is prevent us from keeping events in the forefront. If i have a political content community that only allows one type of content, that is fucking boring and stifling. When we separate our politics into [discussion], [political memes] [news] it may look nice but you kill free form thought and how people actually communicate. This is what feels different from the internet back in the day and the internet today. We have moderation sanitize our efforts. Compare this to MAGA or the right whose spaces are more creative. They combine multiple types of media into a menagerie that keeps things alive and interesting. Their spaces are filled with new, memes, in jokes plus calls to action. Because that’s exciting. That’s how content works. There’s collaboration and mixing of media to create new stuff, like we use to before 15 years ago.

The left has been boxed in on purpose. We are in a snuff box. MAGA seized every platform that’s full of kindling and energy while we placed ourselves into a snuff box. Until we fix some core problems and understand how the internet works to engage people then nobody should be encouraging any kind of revolution. If you cannot fight in an online digital space and get measurable victories in a low effort maximum impact environment then a revolution is just going to get people killed and laws that push us towards more authoritarian state.

And maybe I’m wrong. Could be full of shit. But if you want things to change we need to look at us as a whole and address our faults because we all fucked up big time. For decades the left went from a dominate culturally relevant position to a fucking joke. We’re still using the most outdated playbooks and refusing to adapt to a new world. MAGA fucking sucks. But their victories is directly related to how we reacted and interacted. How did we show up for no kings with millions and nothing happened. How did we show up to BLM and only thing that lasted was the idea that the organization was corrupt and stealing millions. How did we show up for the woman’s march and still they’re dying in states because they can’t access abortion. What we did is not working and I think it’s a systematic problem in the left that needs to be reviewed before attempting anything.

Can’t wait to see all the new accounts telling people to migrate to lemmy and block anyone that you disagree with

This is just them pivoting because they know they need to rejuvenate the party

The Republicans don’t do shit. It’s the MAGA regular voter who gets stuff done. The Republican is as useless as any democrat.

Another one being crucified while leftist turn their backs on

This is such an insane comment 😆

Stop lying

This is why the left fucking suck and MAGA is dominating.

Who fucking cares about HIPAA. Cry about it. Thanks for stopping by to announce you know the rules. Rules don’t matter anymore. Which is why i said give the person a good million like MAGA did for people who yell racial slurs at kids.

Now if you don’t think the left can do the stuff the right is able to, maybe they’re not the dumb ones.

Right like how the fucking hell do you all have the energy to Naruto run area 51, scientology buildings, get dressed up in costume to get shot by ICE, show up in the millions to protest in cities world wide yet I’m the crazy one for thinking maybe bite off a challenge that has a real goal. One that like is attainable. He’s at the hospital. Once proof exist that cat isn’t going back in the bag. So why such a push online from randoms who will convince people to go protest and get arrested but not have fun with this one.

I seriously believe online discourse is heavily influenced by bots that act like sheep herders

Why not bum rush the hospital. Or offer go fund me for $100,000 for any hospital staff that provides proof.

The right have made multiple people millionaires for said hard R to kids on playgrounds.

Kids are bum rushing scientology buildings.

The left are like crying everyday how things suck but then not doing anything effective. So tired of the left