It’s not their choice if they’re then coming here to complain they don’t have time for their own life.

Lol

No

Awww, that’s nice. You don’t care enough. But it’s a nice thought.

Should they

Yea, cool.

Nobody cares guys.

Why do you guys keep hanging out here just to read a daily article and move on.

.ml

They’re ccp

Lol fucking lefties get rocked every time. Keep posting a single comment under your most hated daily article. Hopefully Republicans will decide they don’t want power any more.

I love reading all the comments from people sharing a similar experience. This is what we deserve

8-5?

You work 9 hrs?

So what are you if neither party is representing you.

100%

CCP was a very strong grip here.

I’m going to get crucified for what I’m going to say. But here is when I noticed it. A few years ago lemmy was one of the only places AI was getting hated on very hard. Like other places had some small posts or conversations but they were pretty mature. But lemmy was hateful.

What I noticed was that it reminded me of something at the tip of my tongue. Then it hit me. The posts were all the same posts I saw in republican spaces. Like word for word same headline. Same energy, same bullshit. Except instead of immigrants it was AI.

I’m going to stop you people right there because I know what the fuck the comments will be already. So just stop. This isn’t a comment about consequences of AI pro or con. It’s a comment about an observation. Something I’ve noticed and the more I saw the more it made sense.

Lemmy was targeted hard and was one of the early generators of anti AI sentiment. It was impressive. What made it all make sense is that as much as we hate AI, it’s here. It’s not going away. Like any new frontier, the people who are first to new land will become the powerful and rich for the next generation. If I’m not fast enough, maybe I can make others slower. If we know CCP is here. And we know countries are trying to race their industries to build new patents and innovations in this new frontier, then it makes sense why such a small site like lemmy full of early adopters was targeted. It’s why posts were reminiscent of the astro turfing we all saw in republican spaces about immigrants. It’s not the there are not problems its about amplification, framing and narrative building.

CCP want western nationals to be behind the ball on innovation. They contributed massively to pushing stories early on about AI taking jobs, raping your women and stealing our way of life. If you really want to see CCP in action then search up the early AI posts here if they haven’t already scrubbed them.

I think your math is wrong. You know why America loses wars? It’s a massive machine that requires constant tuning and billions to actually do anything. You put out up against a non traditional military like guerilla fighters and they can grind that fucker down with smaller strategic attacks. This is the battle we’re up against.

And you know how I know this? Look at how much effort was put into moving people on the left off these platforms. They know the math is against them. They are limited by the same algorithms we are. Except they do not have the same man power since they’re using bots and vote rigging. But at the same time, posts can only display so many comments. Just having votes isn’t enough. It’s the network and discovery and engagement and most of all is the content. With a more active presence, especially with lemmy which is supposed to be ideally set up to prevent hostile take overs, we could make it increasingly difficult for their efforts. They’re already laying ground work for the next election cycles. Go look at how many of your favorite shows have a Facebook group that has anti lgqtb, anti Trans anti left dominate groups. And you know what. The other groups fight back but they can only do so much. Lemmy should be a place to build communities focused on sharing information, spreading awareness and documentation of how they are trying to seize and manipulate things.

In my mind it is so bad to have lemmy, a tool clearly built to do something with and then just use it to post a daily news article and memes about AI

It’s more about the panic then the market crash. They want irrational actors. Remember in die hard the shitty one about the fire sale. It’s basically that. Aside from the terribly movie, they’re kicking the legs from the pillars of a democracy and in the chaos and vacuum that’s created they can usurp power and authority. Western countries need to identify these efforts better and guard against it.

Yea exactly and this brings up another issue. Lemmy is built to get around that. This should be the place we can build communities to counter this. Identify mods and posts that are clearly playing games. Document and spread this information. People are smart. They’ll find ways.

If all we’re using lemmy for is sharing shit bean posts then we’re useless people

I think you under estimate it greatly. It’s not about saying you go out and give me ten comments stat.

But it is about moving away from the cultural of “don’t engage” and promoting the culture of we’ll fucking met they bullshit and return fire when we can. It’s about moving behavior from defensive posture to offensive to get us off our back foot

I’ve been saying for years that the next big thing will be a bank run.

Hasn’t been one in a while. Under utilized panic option. They’ll make it happen soon enough.

Did you guys not realize this is happening with the right wing think tanks as well?

Lots of groups are flooding every social media platform with their views. Comments and posts. They take over all kinds of groups. Like bobs lgqtb hate groups. They even convinced leftist to avoid confronting them. Remember all the people a few years ago telling each other to not “roll with pigs” and maybe we should all just leave the major platforms for a much smaller place. Now when AI ingests data it’s all right leaning. So if you ask Claude what’s going on with climate change, it’ll aggregate everything and give answers saying how global warming is a controversial topic and so on.

This is the consequence of not playing the game. Temporary gain for long term pain.

The answer to all of this has always been awareness. Identify the astroturf and go in the opposite direction. The Chicago way, like in the untouchables. If they put one of ours in the hospital, we put two of theirs in the morgue. There are more of us then them. The solution is for every shit post or comment we need to make 10. Every advertising you see, you need to create an anti ad. You need to multiple their effort in the reverse. It costs them money. It costs us just time and effort. You fucks spend months posting about beans and moths so you can fuck off trying to say you couldn’t do this.

You know the left can also put up an effort to overwhelm them as well