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    Never thought I’d ask this but… how do I determine the gender of my toilet? And how do I confirm it’s cis-gendered?

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    They want trans genocide, they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore

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    Do you want people to pee on the bathroom doors? Because that’s how you get people to pee on bathroom doors.

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    I’m having an argument with idiots here in Australia trying to “protect women”. No joke, most of them are toxic blokes who are trying to be masculine. I even got told by one I’m not a man, because I should be protecting women.

    In another thread, there was a guy who was posting back and forth telling me I was a guy dictating things… whilst, I didn’t even comment what should be done. I just commented that climbing gyms are running womxn nights for years without issue and it’s a non issue is causing some of them to go nuts

    In fact, they solved the dilemma entirely by just going unisex (and, the toilet cubicles are full length and mostly soundproof it feels like, so they’re actually awesome

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    I thought that toilets were a primarily a public health concern. If they are not provided then unfortunate things start happening in secluded corners.

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    I think we need to create a government works program to hire toilet patrol enforcement, and require everyone to present their original birth certificates and IDs prior to pissing in any toilet - private or public! /s

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    Why do gendered toilets exist anymore? It’s the 21st century and we don’t need them.

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    As far as I can tell the UK is the only country in the whole of Europe following America down this specific insane moral and political rabbit-hole.

    It’s like they tried to get into the XXI century, failed and decided to go back to their time of greatness, the Victorian Era.

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      Its interesting change. Considering companies has always been pro whatever is profitable. The question why this shift happened without any push back from companies and wealthy people. In fact most of these decisions seems to cost people more money.

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      ah yes the rest of Europe is super tolerant against trans people. LOL. Russia has a laws that forbids gender reassignment surgery. And they have a law that bans LGBTQ “propaganda” basically write or film something positive or even neutral information about the LGBTQ will get you in jail. Hungary and Poland haven’t been very friendly against queers in the last decade. Almost every right wing party in Europe that has “family values” on their agenda wants to see trans people gone.

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    This is going to make it so difficult to plan out businesses and buildings that everyone will end up with gender neutral bathrooms and spaces. It’s my dream that all those lobby groups who think they’re protecting women will have to shit next to every man, woman, femboy, adult baby, theydy, them, zem, furry and otherkin in the UK.

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      No, there’s already rules in place from the previous government which says that all new builds and buildings euch are changing their use must have separate, sex-segregated toilets, unless the building is physically too small for anything other than a single room with a single toilet and sink. You can have gender-neutral toilets as well but not instead

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        13 hours ago

        From the article:

        “The law here is a mess, and clearly many businesses will just go gender neutral to avoid the headache,

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        guardian says these rules allow only providing universal toilets “where there is insufficient space” for separate facilities

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    All of this is solved with just using more single occupancy bathrooms. Just an open hallway with rooms and toilets and changing stations. Sinks in the hallway.

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      Not allowed. I’ll copy from another post:

      No, there’s already rules in place from the previous government which says that all new builds and buildings euch are changing their use must have separate, sex-segregated toilets, unless the building is physically too small for anything other than a single room with a single toilet and sink. You can have gender-neutral toilets as well but not instead

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        So make the toilets as outlined above, but on the last two doors in the row mark one male and one female.

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          Yeah. The minority of loud stupid/paid people who care about this really are the ones who should be inconvenienced. If you want a gendered bathroom then there’s an outbuilding you can use. It’s on one plot so technically we’re still within code.

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      This is not a bad consequence, better for all of us, even if the trigger is fear and spite

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      As a parent of two, this is best for the kids they claim to worry about. It makes potty training much less stressful

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    Why the fuck do these perverts care so much about what people do in a bathroom? How fucking weird

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    I was confused, but then the article was about the UK, where they stupidly did Brexit. Don’t worry, everybody. This is just about people who make dumb decisions.

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      You say that, but I mean have you looked around here lately? The Bri’ish don’t have a monopoly on stupid.

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        Just have a bunch of single stalls and sinks. Why do we need gendered bathrooms?

        I’m there to take a shit. I don’t care if a woman is washing her hands.

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          Not necessarily in the defense of single sex toilets, but I imagine not all men are gentle, and women (maybe even anyone else) would choose not to get peeked at from above by a nasty weirdo. I know, I know, not like only one gender could do it, but if I had to find a reason why one would want to have single sex toilets, this would be the reason that makes the most sense to me.

          Or, you know, people being religious fanatics stuck in the 18th century, but who would be like that in 2026? /s

          • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            That’s just a consequence of shitty bathroom design. In civilized places, bathroom stalls have actual walls and doors that go to the floor and ceiling.

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              That’s totally true. I just thought of the possibility because I grew up where not every toilet was civilised.

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            Eeeh, first one may not be that removed from actual risk. If we assume 1/10 of population is perverted, then cutting out hetero folks from perving on opposite sex is cutting that 1/10 to 1/100. So the chance some perv will actually go for it is lower. And this is a bigger issue for women than men, so makes sense to be watching out for that.

            In USA that is, in EU we have full size stall doors and walls :|

        • MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world
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          People don’t just wash hands in a bathroom sink. They wash their face, groom themselves, admire themselves, apply makeup, etc.

          Also, why waste space with stalls, when you can use urinals instead? I don’t want to wait outside a stall to take a piss.

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            The first thing you named everyone does so it doesnt need to be private.

            The second thing is a urinal takes up a stall space so just have more stalls.

            After being to places that do this, I can tell you it works fine.

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              I don’t want to mog myself in the mirror in front of women.

              Also, urinals absolutely don’t take up as much space as stalls.

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                You can’t check how you look in the mirror in front of other people? Why, what difference would it make what gender they are, that’s kind of weird.

                Nobody is watching you, you can grow up and deal with it.

                Yes the space savings is based on only requiring one room vs two. And even in a one room scenerio the loss isn’t that much, about 1 urinal space for ever 14 stalls. Not to mention that there never is one room empty the other waiting scenerio.

                Again, I was just in a facility that does this. These rooms are easy, convenient, and safe because the sink areaks open to the hall. It works great.

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              Stalls are not as efficient space, material, or queue wise compared to urinals. For those with penises and the need to pee, urinals are just better. It would be stupid to remove these.

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                Not really no. Because you are now requiring two seperate bathrooms. Urinals dont really save any space, you cannot share it. So one row of lets say 12 stalls floor to ceiling are just as efficient. Only one common area open to the hall way, only one plumbing row (same a a urinal) and only one bathroom.

                This system is more effective and just works.

                Also, you add as many areas like this as the building requires.

                Do you have a urinal at home?

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                  Urinals can be packed far more tightly than stalls, so no they are not just as efficient. Urinals are also optimal for high traffic/volume scenarios, so having one at home is not necessary. They’re also easier to clean and maintain.

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        Limited gender washrooms < “Shitter”

        Like come on this is not that hard, everybody poops.

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        There are many different forms of sex people can have in public toilets and so restricting them to just one kind wouldn’t be equal.

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          Yeah! Justice for straight people! No longer shall we be forced to excuse ourselves in restaurants only to shamefully walk into the opposite gender bathroom to have sneaky restaurant sex with our partners! We want a bathroom where both men and women can walk in with their heads held high and then do unmentionable things to each other while their friends are waiting for desert to arrive!

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    So, a bathroom ban for the entire UK?

    Did you guys see the US speed running a regression arc and decide to try your hand at it?

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      Pretty much. I think we’re owned by the same media conglomerate as you guys, so it’ll be the same playbook