The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.
These days, multiple people who’ve spoken to him over the last year say, Biden often punctuates conversations with: “You think we can actually come back from this?”
The 83-year-old Biden continues to feel out a post-presidency that may prove to be one of the shortest in history and is already one of the most complicated.
There are days when Biden is heartbroken, indignant or in disbelief about what is happening as President Donald Trump — the man he defeated in 2020 — returned and moved not just to tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.
This is AI Slop.
From CNN or the summary in the post?
Both
If ONLY he had been president and could’ve DONE something about Trump! Like arrest him for that coup attempt against… Whomever was elected… Or ANYTHING!
Maybe he just needed a nudge in the right direction, like a Supreme Court ruling that presidents were invulnerable.
Former President Biden’s biggest mistake, allowing the MAGA fucknuts to maneuver unhindered toward the current fucked-up mess.
It wasn’t him running for a second term when his cognitive decline had been bad enough to say he finally beat Medicare?
I see a lot of BoTh SiDeS sAmE doom posting but I’m pretty sure Biden didnt cause trump to be a pedophile.
Anyone with half a brain could see the project 2025 was coming. There was enough to declare an emergency and to have everyone put on trial for conspiracy to overthrow the government. You guys just want to act like falling over and playing dead is the only thing the “opposition” party can do.
You want to bring up some bullshit about how the laws prevented them from moving quickly or something? Throw those interfering in the investigation in jail and nullify their congressional voting rights.
But no, you’re right, both sides are totally different, I’m just the crazy one for thinking we could have something better.
Biden still didn’t cause anyone to decide a pedophile is the only option.
You can’t change my mind on this.
Ever.
You are correct, but thats not what I’m arguing. So why didn’t the biden administration act? Why didn’t the DoJ do more with the mountains, hell Galaxy’s worth of incriminating evidence they had? Why not jail every single Congress person who had obstructed? Why turn a blind eye to Jan 6?
Wake up. They arrested jan 6 insurrectionists under Biden
It’s Trump who pardoned them once he got back into power.
Either way It’s just sheer false equivalency to ever say any of this had anything to do with why voters choose a pedophile and why other potential voters stepped aside and let them. These assholes need to be held accountable for their actions to facilitate this to happen. So you can’t blame Biden for that.
Why trump remained unjailed should be a separate discussion to the sheer callousness of voters voting for a pedophile
These are two entirely different discussions and merging then only disqualifies a deep problem that should be addressed on its own.
This is my problem with this being merged as one problem. It overlooks way too much of what happened here.
Funny how you don’t even mention the Epstein files. You want red pedofiles or blue ones?
I don’t think he made people decide a pedophiles is the only option. I think he and the rest of the establishment democrats failed to give the people who didn’t want the pedophile something to vote for. Yes, people had plenty of reasons to vote against trump, but they didn’t have many reasons to vote for Biden or Harris. The reality is that giving people a reason to vote for you is what actually gets them out to the polls
Come back to what, exactly?
People abroad trusting America perhaps? America seems like it’s really destroyed its reputation lately. Or could be referring to the decay of rule of law with ICE and the like, will the public ever trust the government again?
I know what Biden means, I’m saying that there is nothing worth going “back” to. People didn’t trust the USA, the wealthy understood they could secure their power by cooperating with it and using its capacity for violence; that’s how colonialism functions.
I guess he forgot his FIFTY YEARS in politics and has NOW decided things have gone too far.
No, Joe, we can’t come back from 50 years of people like you and worse, you HACK
Yeah, this. A half century of playing power games at the expense of the people. Not just him, but all the dems as they’ve slid further right. Too many of them content to play power games at the expense of the country, letting us argue over pronouns, bathrooms, and crosswalks while they quietly take a knee and kiss the ring for their corporate benefactors. Utter failure to shore up protections against trump even after it was painfully obvious that people like him were going to get elected.
Yeah, Joe did do some decent things, same as Obama, but both of them were the failed barriers that allowed the Right to be the fascists they are now, particularly by letting McConnel and the republicans to prevent nominations to the Supreme Court, essentially capturing the judicial branch and taking trump’s leash off.
Woah now, he just recognizes blacks as thugs and young people as a useful economic battery for the wealthy and actively put rules and laws into place to help fill prisons and debt with his select groups.
That was all in good clean capitalism, this is unholy capitalism, cause what if he isn’t well liked and the US doesnt make more money for his friends anymore?
His previous stuff just affected other people! What if he has to experience it personally?! Havent you thought of him?
Fuck you Joe, you slow walked us into this by not prosecuting Trump in the name of “bipartisanship!” If you had done your job we might not be in this mess. Democrats are weak and feckless.
And supporting genocide and AIPAC
Yup, anyone who doesn’t know what AIPAC is doesn’t understand this has been building up for decades.
…tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.
Yeah cuz those are the important things to be concerned with.
He should shut the fuck up. That fucking hump is responsible for this.
When he took over, he immediately launched a Covid Vaccine program and an Economic Stimulus program that were both far more successful than predicted. For that, he could have landed in the top 10-15 of presidents.
But he had to do a decent job for the rest of his presidency, which mainly included dealing with MAGA as the National Security Threat they are. He had just seen Trump launch an Insurrection. That would have been enough for him to step off the podium after being sworn in, and say “Round them ALL up, and ship them to Guantanamo for interrogation. We’ll sort them out there.”
If he’d done that, we would have found out about the False Electors Plot, AND his Stolen Classified Documents Operation. That’s THREE separate cases of sedition and treason, and more than enough for him to get the noose.
Rounding them up would have suppressed the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and allowed the Dems to better control the messaging going into the 2024 election.
Instead, Biden basically checked out of the job after announcing his Covid and Stimulus programs, and stupidly appointed the most feckless Republican to be his AG, perhaps the STUPIDEST Democratic Presidential decision in modern history, who dithered and slow-walked Trump’s treason cases as long as he could, giving him a two year head start to run out the clock, which he did, successfully.
In addition, he ignored the many warnings, many coming from the mouths of the criminals themselves, that they intended to rig the election and steal the presidency, and Biden allowed them to do it in front of the entire world, without any interference at all. And when they did, he went along with the ridiculous concept that Trump won the election “fair & square.”
The American voters fired MAGA decisively, and expected the new Democratic administration to clean up the mess. Instead of getting justice for America, they tried to make friends with feral animals, and got eaten alive. For his weakness and cowardice, allowing MAGA to rise again, Biden’s legacy is in the toilet, and will he will be buried in the bottom 10 of all presidents.
Biden betrayed us, and he’s lucky that he won’t be joining the MAGAs against the wall with the rest of them. He deserves the firing squad as much as any of them.
Usually when I read your replies, I’m in agreement with some of it and disagreement with some. This is the first time in recent memory I agree 100%, and will add:
He did what he was paid to do.
But THE PARLIAMENTARIAN said no!
I’m Canadian and you got me all fired up with your comment. I agree wholeheartedly.
This is an all-time great comment
couldn’t have said it better myself
Joe Biden and the Democratic Party leadership are part-and-parcel to this. The downfall of Iran has been continuous American policy for over 40 years, and the party has acts as a honeypot to capture and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and stop the Overthrow Window from moving leftward. No more opposition to war, no more economic populism, no more social safety net. All they do is run “block tackle” for neoconservatives. The uniparty could not be more obvious right now.
Genocidal loser. Rot in piss.
“No. And it’s all your fault.”
“We tried nothing, and that didn’t work. I think we might be screwed here.” - Old school Corporate Democrats.
Yeah, we can come back from this, one way or another. The fact that he can’t figure out a way, is why he was a terrible president.
One way was to fire MAGA, and elect an experienced Democrat to be president and get justice for America. Which we did. And then he went on to do literally NOTHING to stop them from rising again.
The answer is no.
Come back to what? From absolute trash human beings to pretending not to be absolute trash human beings.
Don’t be that guy. Whatever is happening under Trump is something new. Predictable, maybe, but new and uniquely terrifying in modern times.
*Edit: New in American history. Please stop replying to tell me this is an age old issue that has plagued civilization since the dawn of time. When Biden implies that we (the US) can’t come back from this, he is obviously talking about the loss of whatever is left of American democracy and the descent into authoritarian dictatorship/oligarchy. Americans have never seen anything like it except as bystanders.
Funny enough it isn’t.
There is a concept in imperialism that eventually after running out of room to expand the threat of violence and demand turns inward towards its own people and then when that fails too they lash out violently towards anything they deem as a resource they should own.
Its actually extremely common throughout history and means also this has not felt new to people that that have been in the sights of the outward facing arm of it for decades now. So it might feel unique to you and you may claimit to be because years have passed and we have new technology to wage these fights with… But its shockingly more of the same just getting spread around more to more people to shelter the controlling classes more, as usual.
Is it? Biden was actively helping run a genocide. Are we all just pretending those deaths didnt happen and Biden didnt play any role in them at all? I will not. Biden was an absolute dogshit president. Compared to Trump he was great, but he absolutely belongs behind bars, same as trump does.
Why are you pretending like Biden isn’t talking specifically about the collapse of whatever is left of American democracy into outright dictatorship? Hungary, North Korea, Russia… whatever you think about America, the crony capitalism of the last 40 - 50 years is nothing compared to Russian oligarchy. In all of American history, nothing even close has existed. And since the beginning of post-war American hegemony, these systems of democratic oppression have always existed “over there”. For the very first time, the full dictator experience is coming to America. It’s entirely, undeniably new.
I tend to agree with the former president. There is no coming back from this.
Name a president who wasn’t dog shit? America was always picking fights with people to push their agenda.
Carter and Kennedy didnt violate American laws. Biden violated the Leahy act and many other anti genocide laws and acted cute about it by claiming they didnt acknolwedge that what was going on was a genocide.
Its not new, this has happened over and over again.
