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  • Yeah, I’m saying it is.

    What I’m also saying is that the government and mainstream media have lied to you about people trying to fix it.

    All that affirmative action, DEI stuff? If you actually look at it, and look how it’s been used and the effects it’s had, it’s not been what they say it is.

    It’s not letting some unqualified person get a job, it’s making sure the qualified person gets the job without the old bigotry getting in the way of a college application or a new job, for any race, even white people.

    But there’s people who do everything they can to talk shit about the law, because they benefit from talking shit about it and people benefit from being able to discriminate.

    They get the clicks, the views, and the donations just by saying “oooo that DEI is bad, gonna put a black lesbian in charge of a surgery” because there’s people who are racist assholes who love to hate stuff like that and could never imagine a black lesbian actually being a qualified surgeon, and then there’s not racist people who just want everyone to get a fair chance at competition and think that it’s getting in the way of that.

    And then some Democrats lump the two together, pushing the more reasonable people in with the bigots, to the point that if anyone has any concerns with affirmative action gets yelled at.












  • I don’t think, because I don’t think getting people to accept other people is anything like rape.

    So you say that you get that bigotry can cut both ways, basically people can be bigoted towards anyone, and can happen pretty much anywhere. So one of the only things we can do is make it so bigots can’t use their power to hurt people they hate, regardless of who they hate. That’s why we have laws against things like, hitting each other and murder. We also have other laws to keep people from discriminating when doing business and hiring people. I think that those are laws that you are in favor of, because you don’t want people to discriminate against you.



  • The problem with that logic is that you’re assuming you’ll just find another job. What if you lived in a city that was super crazy liberal, and no one was hiring you because you were straight. Unfortunately you still need a job to get by, and you can’t afford to move if you don’t have a job.

    But hey, about mistreating you? There’s laws about that, too, all part of the package deal that comes with not hiring you based on race. With strict enough penalties companies would rather their employees not be bigots because they don’t want to go to court.

    A side effect of all this is that bigotry dies in people’s hearts when they are exposed to the people they are bigoted against. If there was someone who hated Americans, but then got to actually meet and talk to one and work with one, they would realize Americans aren’t all bad and can be pretty nice and chill. So making sure people don’t hire based on race helps eliminate racism and keeps things fair for everyone, which helps business innovate by giving people a chance.


  • Well the problem with that is that there’s some businesses that wouldn’t fail and go out of business even if there were instances of bigotry in hiring. So that’s why people had to step in.

    Like, if you tried to get a job at Starbucks and weren’t hired because you were white, that one store isn’t going to fail, much less the company. And it wouldn’t be fair to hire or not hire people based on your race, right?

    So people set up rules so that hiring people based on race is illegal, which works out better for businesses and people overall.



  • Man it’s like, people are bigoted or something to the point where they had to make laws specifically saying that you have to hire the most competent person, and people still whine about it.

    We both know there’s racist people out there, towards blacks and whites and Asians or anyone else. Or people who hate gays. Or people who hate straight people. So if you really believe in meritocracy, where people naturally rise from their own effort and the better people get the jobs, you should be in favor of laws that keep things fair. Then the better people will get hired.