Its not like there are enough people in the country illegally to fill the concentration camps the budget bill is going to pay for
The bottom line is that they want to incarcerate as many people as possible.
What does a corporation do when they are already paying their people as little as possible, and replace as many as they can with AI? Imagine if slavery were legal, and they could force people to work for literally free?
The only legal form of slavery is prison labor, ensconced in the Constitution, so as long as people are in prison, the administration can rent them out to wealthy corporations. The corporations get cheap/free labor, and the government gets to maintain control.
In addition, that’s how they will treat people who require any public assistance, like Medicaid or Food Stamps. You will be forced to live in a camp, and work for whoever they tell you to work for. In return, you will get a bed, basic food, and minimal medical care.
Same with homeless people. Put them in a camp, force them to work, and declare the homeless problem solved.
So when are you yanks going to actually start shooting each other?
First time I heard someone joke that Americans don’t shoot up schools
MAGAs are the gun owners. Mostly.
Whenever the fascists feel it’s time to start shooting people
Why would they when they can just kidnap people off the street with no resistance?
And some point the question will be: “why not?”
I expect it within the next 12 months. California is going to 3nd up withholding federal income tax and it’s going to start a new civil war.
I work from home, and my wife has started looking for work from home or in California so we can move there. We want to be on the correct side of this.
We’re talking about going to California, or perhaps another country, if anyone would take us.
If elections end, and HitlerPig becomes dictator for life, then the entire west coast will probably break off, and sign an alliance with Canada and Mexico, surrounding 2/3 of America with hostile territory.
When did we ever stop?
Soon a critical mass will have nothing left to lose
Happens every day already. Just not organized
Literally what Stalin did.
Gulags at least had trials. Our system isn’t even bothering to do that.
Turns out the sham trials were the excessive part.
Well… if you look a the history of the US you COULD argue that most of its inhabitants are offspring of illegal immigrants, sooo…
next up: calling it a “concentration camp” is grounds to have your citizenship revoked
Imagine getting murdered by the regime for saying “alligator auschwitz”
I hate to break it to you, that’s the MAGAts name for it, so they would love it if you did. And they’re selling merch for it.
No, they’re calling Alligator Alcatraz, because they think Alcatraz was a decent place. HitlerPig has even floated the idea of re-opening it.
Alligator Auschwitz is too close to reality, and they are still in the denial stage that they are following the Nazi playbook.
My dumbass didn’t even read “Auschwitz” in the original comment lmao, I read “Alcatraz”. You’re absolutely right here.
Alligator Auschwitz is a much more accurate description, and it also pisses off the MAGA Nazis so much, so that’s the one we should use.
take it seriously. fascist regimes wont’ tolerate criticism, or mockery, or pointing out how fucking evil they are. the direction we’re rapidly mimicking is north korea. btw fun fact: it’s illegal to call it “north korea” in north korea; it’s “democratic people’s republic of korea,” and south korea isn’t called south korea, it’s called “puppet regime”
“that could never happen in america!!!” too many people are still saying
while it’s literally happening
I feel like a boiling fn frog at this point.
Yup. Since Reagan…
you’re not alone. it’s so depressing, shit getting worse every single day. whatever “good” things are happening don’t outweigh the fascism
I’m in my forties, and it just feels like we’ve been constantly losing ground since Obama left office, I’m just so frustrated by all of the apathy, corruption, and dishonesty, and have been since 2015.
same. add to that, that everyone i try to talk to about this would rather pretend it’s somehow going to get better, or that somehow “the law” will catch up to these fascists and stop them in their tracks.
i guess we’ve been conditioned to believe that the bad things will just go away if we just say ‘this is fine’
the protests are a noble effort. but they’ve done nothing
Part of it is trying to keep up morale. If you feel so beaten down that you won’t do anything, that’s just as bad. Not everyone can get motivated from the bleakness of a situation or from difficult and almost impossible struggle. For those of us who are, it feels like finally we’re fighting some actual great evil, of whose evilness justifies ANY means of defeating it. It feels exciting for us, I’m guessing it almost like a form of that bloodlust that those who get captured by the enamoring power of war feel when their country declares it upon another country which they view as evil.
No conditioning required. The Bystander Effect has always been baked into human instincts.
Nothing? The protests are a big part of the reason the richest man on earth got kicked out of D.C.
That Civil War movie from last year is looking pretty damn prophetic.
the year is 2025, a Chinese citizen responds to the Tiananmen Square copypasta with a picture of BB Vance and the Alligator Auschwitz copypasta. The American citizen’s internet access is immediately cut off and they are ordered to lay face down outside where the Amazon Prime predator drone can see them to wait for an ICE collection crew.
EU Citizens be making fun of both regimes
As well they should
Not gonna have to imagine it for long
“If you have one group of people who feels very comfortable that their citizenship is secure, they will feel much more comfortable being politically active,” she said. “And if you have another group of people who worries that if their political activity gets on the wrong side of somebody in power, that their lives and livelihoods might be vulnerable — that is a lesser citizenship. That is a reason why people might step back from political participation.”
And there it is, reduce resistance little by little, then eliminate everyone.
Second amendment looking like the only alternative.
Too late, the opposition (my fellow Democrats) made sure most of us aren’t armed.
No they didn’t you idiot.
Lives in a nation with more gun deaths than a major conflict every year.
“We need more guns!”
If guns stopped fascism we should be the least fascist nation ever. Since we are the most fascist nation it is more likely guns are part of the problem, not the solution.
I have read the premise phrased as follows:
“No amount of meaningful change will occur until the wealthy fear for their lives.”
There will be no peace until the wealthy cease to be wealthy.
Counterpoint: They most definitely are the solution.
Most countries give up when they are only one gun away from total peace.
Counter-counter point: It takes fascism to defeat fascism therefore we should embrace gun culture and become fascist. The only way to stop a good fascist is to become a bad one /S
With resistance like this, your country is so boned.
Please, you have no clue what history has shown us. We are the worst, most violent civilization the world has ever seen. We lose more Americans every year to gun violence than most countries lose in a major conflict. That is our fucking baseline.
You better wise up quick.
The neoliberal controlled opposition is disarmed, because you don’t need personal arms when you have cops and your goal is preserving the power of the state and the capitalist boot.
The actual opposition (who have been disenfranchised by your fellow Democrats), were never so naive and are armed just fine. Just disorganized and excluded from the political machinery.
“Most of us aren’t armed”? Homie US citizens own 120 guns per 100 people. The fucking answer to absolutely every problem here, left or right, has been to arm themselves. We have literally never had more left-wing people carrying pistols.
Like Jesus Christ, someone got shot and killed at the ‘No Kings’ rally in Idaho, and all three parties involved were left-wing. I am not sure what planet you’re on, but it ain’t Earth.
I mean…when we say guns, are we saying they own 120 AR-15s? Or are we realistically saying that certain gun owners like collecting even rather useless guns? Like most gun owner wishlist are having an AR, AK, 1911, Glock, a revolver of some kind, SKS, Mosin, PS-90, etc. Once you got one gun, it’s like “yeah I mean I can have fun with just one gun, but it’s funner to larp as a Soviet soldier with an AK, and also 1911s are objectively beautiful guns, and also yeah 1911 is a pistol, but a Beretta 92 FS would be cool because it looks cool and is in a bunch of movies, and you know, even though I have 2 pistols, a Glock would be nice because it’s practical and utilitarian and those other 2 pistols are just for fun, and also i can makr glock perfection memes, and now i want a civilian version of an MP5 because that shit looks sick in the movies I see it in, and also I’m a fan of Stargate, so fuck it I’m going to get a civilian version of a p90 too, and also you know what else would be cool? A revolver, maybe two of them, one for my detective larp and one for my cowboy larp. And shit, I’m interested in a shot gun too, for self defense of course, so let’s get a Mossberg! But damn the KSG bull pup shotgun looks so sci fi and cool, so I’m gonna get that too, and also wow some double barrel wooden stock shotguns look beautiful! I want two, one that I can afford to rough it up a bit with for hunting, and one really beautiful one, because why not!”
Like a few of the guns above are practical for combat and or revolution or what not because of their ease of fixing, customizability, etc. But a lot of them are redundant and bought because of some cursory historical interest/larp/coolness and alot are just for fun.
Yes, but averaging is the wrong take here. I believe the actual amount of gun owners is under 40%, if I remember the studies. I personally witnessed a messy divorce, and the individual that had a personal stake in the gun collection moved somewhere in the realm of 200 rifles out of the house. I thought I knew gun nuts* before that, and it blew my mind. Those sort of folks are going to massively skew the guns per capita.
*I had seen collections of 50+, but they were rare and rich… most ‘nuts’ that I knew just liked their personal amount of 5-10 that they thought were the bee’s knees.
Sounds like a personal problem.
Chilling effect until barren tundra. Got it.
I can’t get over just how short sighted MAGA is… They give the president this power like it will never be used against them by the next Democrat president.
It won’t, democrats are giant pussies. They gave Biden a blank check from the supreme court to do official acts and he barely even got Trump prosecuted let alone actually punished.
To be fair, in doing so, he would have given Republicans something to point to and say, “See?? The democrats are unhinged power abusers!”
Not that it really makes a difference in the end.
Can’t point if you’re in a gulag.
Given that Democrats still have no idea that the GOP are champion Calvin Ball players, pretty sure it won’t
You think that after the changes made to the voting systems, the SAVE voting act, the firing of people at CISA responsible for election safety and security, and the migration of the voting devices to Starlink (even with orage mussilini and muskrat falling out) that there’s ever going to be a Democratic president again? I wish I had your optimism. That’s if a state of emergency/war isn’t called that halts all elections, which is far more likely to be what happens.
Plus, the Democrats will just play good and “not stoop to the opposition’s level”, letting them just get creamed and steamrolled again in the following election, even if they do somehow manage to win. The Democrats had a chance to fight facism and they welcomed it with open arms. Without turning over nearly the entirety of the party, why does anyone think anything is ever going to change?
The supreme court gave total immunity to the president while Biden was president. He didn’t use it a single time.
In the realm of republican politics (also known as the fucked supreme court), only republican presidents are given total immunity.
Like how Biden had Trump killed in 2024.
If democrats ever had a candidate willing to whip his balls out and do something aggressively for a change.
You think the democrats would actually do that? They’d make a big deal about how they won’t do that, because they are cowards. The only spine they ever grow is when their corporate owners tell them to. Other than that, they care about nothing but maintaining the status quo.
Probably not, but one can hope
I mean you can but it’s foolish. What has the democratic party done to deserve your hope other than not be Trump?
That’s fair
Funny thing is. Republicans allow their red-ass state legislatures to gerrymander their districts, while democrats act so high and nobel implementing their “non-partisan” commissions to “draw fair districts”.
The house is forever skewed in favor of the right wing unless democrats play dirty and also gerrymander the shit out of those seats.
Yeah, I hate gerrymandering but the notion that the Democrats should unilaterally disarm is very stupid.
They tried in New York the last time the maps were redrawn. If Dems really wanted to gerrymander New York, they could likely win every single district.
The courts shot that one down, and now New York is just heavily favored to Dems. The House would be majority Dems right now if not for that alone.
They even made us memorize this one in grade school:
- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Note that this says nothing about having to be a citizen for this to apply to you, either. And while we’re at it, see also this.
Well you see, congress isn’t making a law, the executive branch is just doing blatantly illegal shit with impunity, because congress is full of spineless coward sellouts
They are just imagining they will wield that power someday so they don’t want to rock the boat.
They are all temporarily embarrassed ruling party. Otherwise they would want to remove or restrict these powers. This did not happen overnight either.
We have known for several decades now the extreme problems with executive overreach. The President should be a figured head only and Congress should increase in size and do its job.
This is blatant corruption and a dereliction of their duty. It really is disgusting to see how little regard these jokers have for their positions. Electing a literal carnival barker and giving his team of racist rejects the keys to the country is mind bogglingly stupid.
Meanwhile, the plan is to feed everyone who isnt white enough to alligators.
The right of the people would be interpreted to be citizens 100% guaranteed.
Traitors, all of them.
But I thought they were only going after people in the country illegally, I thought they were okay with immigration as long as they followed legal processes (sarcasm)
Those who gain citizenship through unlawful means and endanger our national security will not maintain the benefits of being an American citizen
Lmao… Benefits? What exactly are those benefits? Not being on the receiving end of a bombing? Not having our country destabilized by a narcissist (we don’t even get that benefit anymore). Having healthcare taken away? A secret police force take you away for wrongthink? Lol benefits of being an American…
Bruh what do you mean the best American benefit is living in a 3rd world country while giving your taxes to hardworking billionaires who use it to control you and blowing up brown kids in the Middle East
Very true! I’m so ungrateful! :(
Have you even said thank you?
Only country in the world to tax based on citizenship instead of residency… Being forced to declare taxes as an expat is a hassle. What are these benefits they speak of??? I’d gladly give mine up if it wasn’t such a hassle and so expensive to do so.
Here’s a question I have never understood about this. I understand all of this if you are planning on returning to living in the US at some point. But if you’ve moved to a foreign country with no plans on returning to the US, why are you still paying taxes? What is stopping you from telling the US government to go pound sand?
I’m not meaning to sound sarcastic. It’s a legit question. I don’t know how any of this works and the issues surrounding it. Because I would think that if I lived in a foreign country I’d be telling Uncle Sam where he can stick his tax bill. That’s kinda the whole point of leaving. What prevents people from doing this, especially if they don’t plan to return to the US?
FATCA Act. Canada and USA have an agreement. The USA can literally take money from a Canadian citizen’s bank account.
This baffles me. I just can’t see where, as a world leader, I would ever allow a foreign government access to my country’s banking system at all, let alone just yank money out of someone’s account. I’d be telling the US exactly where they can stick that idea. If they have a problem with a US citizen not paying taxes, then the US can handle it if and when that person sets foot on US soil.
I’d be curious as to how much revenue this generates for the US government. I’d also love to see other countries start rescinding these permissions in retaliation for Trump violating established trade deals. It might not be enough to get Trump to back down, but I still see it as a good opportunity to get bad policies off the books that should never have existed in the first place.
Countries need to start doing shit like that even if only to send a message to Trump and the US that no, the US doesn’t actually rule the world. It’ll never happen, I know, but one can dream.
Extradition.
Well, you guys had a good run being a semi normal country. Now you’re fucked.
semi normal
Extremely generous thank you for that.
No worries mate, you had a good run, all things come to an end and all that!. On a serious note I do empathise a bit for the normals among you. But as a recipient of some foreign policy freedom in the 80s by the USS new Jersey on Beirut, I wish I could be selective in whose face the leopards eat under this administration. Unfortunately I can’t.
You can advocate for allowing refugees against the regime.
This administration is traitorous and needs to be removed immediately. They are enemies of the American people and the American States themselves.
It’s not just the administration. Every republican, and many democrats in congress anre also supporting this.
So like anyone not in the party will be excluded from society?
Citizenship? I think you mean Party Membership.
