Summary
Newt Gingrich blasted a Julia Roberts-led ad encouraging women to vote privately, calling it a sign of the sick values he attributes to Democrats. In a heated exchange with Sean Hannity, he accused the party of promoting dishonesty and moral decay in America, suggesting this reflects a broader erosion of societal integrity. Gingrich, who faced his own scandals, cited Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recent split from the Democrats as further proof of disillusionment with what he sees as their corrupt influence.
Man who cheated on his first wife while she had cancer and cheated on his second wife while impeaching Bill Clinton for having an affair, rails against the moral depravity of Democrats who encourage women to vote for whoever they want.
Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.” It was because it was with a staffer he has power over. It was extremely inappropriate. We shouldn’t be cool with men in powerful positions abusing those positions to fuck people they have power over. Monica Lewinsky was literally half Clinton’s age (22 and 49) and was horrifically abused by all of society AND CLINTON and HIS WIFE.
Like seriously if this was the president of a bank fucking some teller, who he is in charge of paying and promoting, no one would be confused why that banker should step down for abuse of power. The dude was president of the ENTIRE COUNTRY, and you can’t see how that’s abuse of power?
Like fuck Newt but also fuck Clinton who was buddies with Epstein. And him leaving his wife who had cancer is EGREGIOUS.
Eta: Lemmy is full of rapist apologists I guess. If you can’t understand how consent is VITAL and how it makes a world of difference, I hope you live a life being treated exactly how you treat others and women. There’s a man out there who will treat you, as a man, the same way. Good luck.
That is absolutely not what Clinton was impeached for.
The investigation in to Clinton began before he’d ever met Lewinsky, and it was over some real estate dealings. Because Clinton had not actually committed an impeachable offense, Ken Starr had to keep going back to Congress to ask for a wider scope.
The investigation took so long that after it began, Lewinsky was hired, Clinton won a re-election, there was sexual activity, word got out about it, and then Clinton lied about it under oath during a completely different deposition regarding a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Paula Jones, which is what he was ultimately impeached for.
It wasn’t the affair or the harassment, it was the lie, and it was only the lie because they were absolutely desperate to impeach Clinton for anything by that point.
It remains that the problem with the Monica Lewinsky relationship is that Clinton had power over her, not that he simply cheated. It added validity to the other sexual harassment claims because it was also a clear case of sexual harassment.
I was quoting the other person about what specifically caused his impeachment. Regardless of the exact moment that caused it, the issue with Lewinsky remains as I’ve explained it: an abuse of power. It’s not that he “got impeached for a blowjob” or for cheating and when people phrase it like that, they are dismissing and ignoring the real concerns regarding abuse of power.
The point of the comment you’re replying to isn’t to excuse Bill Clinton, it’s to point out Newt Gingrich’s hypocrisy.
And yet it made a little detour to excuse Bill Clinton anyway
Ok but you’re being pedantic
OK that’s just like, your opinion, man
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a comment like that out on the threads, I’ll move my mouse over your comment, and stick it right on the downvote and pull the fucking thing 'til it goes “click.”
Do it, bitch
Eta: you can dish it but you can’t take it? Honestly collectively the dick size on lemmy must be a micrometer
How
while impeaching Bill Clinton for having an affair,
Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.”
See how this is the comment I took issue with and that’s what I started my comment with? Calling it an affair negates the abuse of power involved. As I explained ad nauseum. Just because you’re a man who doesn’t like respecting women, doesn’t mean I’ve been extremely clear.
Calling it an affair draws a parallel to the affair Newt Gingrich was having with his dying wife you acorn
But it wasn’t just an affair. It was an abuse of power. Afaik Newt wasn’t having an affair with a staffer. So it’s a false equivalence, you acorn.
Gingrich, who had an affair during his second marriage, then held Democrats responsible for America’s moral degeneration.
Decent journalistic integrity to point this out, but really should be in the headline.
This the guy who cheated while his wife was dying of cancer?
Naw, that was just a rumor. She had cancer or a tumor and they were fighting over divorce but the papers were served months ago, and she wasn’t on her deathbed.
But, he divorced her, got married again, cheated on #2 while in the midst of the Clinton scandal (talk about family values!), divorced her, got married a third time, and that’s when I quit paying attention to this dude. Dunno if he’s on #4 yet or what.
Needless to say, this dude gives relationship advice like a 6 year old gives tips on replacing a timing belt.
Like, if someone’s spouse is made to be uncomfortable talking about something sensitive to the point that go all sneaky about it, who they voted for is not the problem at all. These guys can’t see the forest for the trees, no wonder they can’t just form a solid lasting relationship
Yeah, he just came into the recovery room to make the final negatiations … you know … like you do
But she turned him into a newt!
He didn’t get better.
She certainly didn’t…
Dam, that’s thermonuclear
Exactly, he’s the perfect one to talk about the moral decay in America and the broader erosion of social integrity: he’s leading the charge in both cases!
Dr Seuss?
Monty Python and the search for the holy Grail
Edit Quest,*
Quest. Monty Python and Quest for the Holy Grail.
“Mønti Pythøn ik den Hølie Gräilen”
The moose bit his sister once
The moose was my favourite character
you heard it here folks… women having autonomy is moral decay… from the people who took away your right to govern your own body.
Seriously, this same bunch has been bitching over women getting the vote, being able to drive, owning land, having a bank account (w/o male approval), no fault divorce, abortion, birth control for decades. Often this was done quietly, or if in a mixed setting, it was done as a “ha ha can’t you take a JOKE?” kind of way.
Now they have stolen abortion rights and in the process the corrupted qons on the “supreme” court indicated they want to do something not only about Teh Gheyz, but also about birth control. And now several of them are being much more open about their hostility to no fault divorce. And unlike in the past, it’s not the geriatrics that were older than the boomers; I hear this shit coming of Gen Z and Gen Y age people…we should believe them when they say this is their intent.
A lot of qons would constantly clutch their pearls and try to get me silenced when I spoke about the xtian taliban. They were only so mad because THEY KNOW IT IS TRUE. The xtian taliban is a thing and other than bullshit doctrinal differences no one outside their little book clubs give a flying fuck about, THEY ARE THE SAME EXACT THING as Islamist extremists. Just because they are not allowed to murder gays and women right now doesn’t mean they get any special points.
Yeah! Individual voters casting their vote based on their own judgment and conscience is sick!!!
It’s undemocratic! What is this, some sort of a republic? One founded on freedoms? spits
The king will hear about this…
“We’re going to throw you and your entire family out of this cult if you don’t obey!”
Best case
Fwiw, muh boys, you can do the same: doesn’t matter how big of nazis your family/coworkers are and that they’d literally want you dead for voting Harris - they don’t see your ballot. So vote Harris, then go back to the break room and bitch about her and talk whatever nazi talk you need to to fit in - cuz sure, you tooootaly voted against that conniving evil bitch! …or at least as far as they’re concerned you did: you can let your vote to save the US be a nice little secret. It all gud.
Lied to my dad told him I voted Trump just so he would stop his bullshit rants. But fuck yeah I voted Harris all the way. Fuck Trump and Fuck this guy. Thought he was fucking dead.
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Unfortunately it still is the 18th century in some places in America, and women are afraid of their own lives if their husbands found out who they voted for.
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It’s interesting how different this dynamic is in Australia. Our public broadcaster is doing a mini series on the US election and they have a journalist there at present. In their recent episode they were talking about how people would see them with a mic outside some public or government building, and approach them with the intention of telling them all about their voting preferences and the underlying reasons.
That’s a stark contrast to how things roll in Australia. There are actually very, very few people who I would talk to about voting preferences. For example I talk to two of my sisters in group chat multiple times a day, see them at least weekly, talk to them about health problems, stressful situations, mental health… but I wouldn’t openly ask them who they’re planning to vote for and why.
It’s socially acceptable to talk about current issues in a non-partisan way. So in the lunch room you might say “this new tax thing is fucked” but you wouldn’t say “<political leader’s> new tax policy is fucked”. If it strayed into anything remotely political I’d clam up. I wouldn’t talk politics with work colleagues, I’d sit and judge them silently.
I’m not trying to say our way is better. Maybe it would be better if people talked about things more.
In very specific industries it might be different. I think it certainly was historically. My grandfather was quite vocal in his support for our Labor party (on the left) because of their support for unions. In his workplace people would have overtly supported Labor and it would’ve been very difficult to work there if you didn’t. Ironically, he was a bit of an asshole. My grandma was pretty great, she told me after he passed away she didn’t know who to vote for anymore because she always just voted the opposite of him just to cancel out his vote.
Pretty much every workplace in the US has a policy against talking politics… and pretty much no one actually adheres to that policy.
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Yeah she thought it was hilarious and i did too.
Like I said he was a bit of a jerk I think.
thank you I’m glad i finally realized this freedom as a human toilet man
You can take it from Newt Gingrich, who has cheated on two dying wives, an epitome of moral compass that all americans should look towards.
The man who cheated on his previous wife dying of cancer says other voting for control over their own healthcare are sick. Gotcha.
that’s unfair… in the spirit of fairness I will add that he also cheated on another wife with multiple sclerosis.
Great side by side
He accuses the Democrat party of promoting dishonesty? Jesus fucking Christ. This is a guy who pushed the Big Lie that the 2020 Election was stolen. The sheer hypocrisy. Every accusation a confession.
Throughout his congressional campaign in 1974, Gingrich was having an affair with a young volunteer. An aide who worked with Gingrich throughout the 1970s stated that “it was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his marriage to Jackie.”
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In September 1980, according to friends who knew them both, Newt visited Jackie in the hospital the day after she had undergone surgery to treat her uterine cancer; once there, Newt began talking about the terms of their divorce, at which point Jackie threw him out of the roomIn 1993, while still married to Marianne, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, more than two decades his junior.[278] Gingrich was having this affair even as he led the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury related to Clinton’s own extramarital affair.[279][128] Gingrich filed for divorce from Marianne in 1999, a few months after she had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.
Sauce: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
My stepmother was doing her undergrad (and a few years later her law degree) from the University of West Georgia when he was a professor of history there and had started his first congressional campaign. She said literally every woman in school was aware of his affairs with students.
Moral decay in 2024? This is just yet another year of accusations fueled by projection from the right.
Let’s not omit that he got fined $300k for ethics violations in 1997 and was found to have accepted 1.7M in bribes (calling them what they are) from Freddie Mac shortly before Freddie wrecked the economy.
Not to belabor the truism that Gingrich is pure scum, but he’s a relevant point in the argument for an age-cap on voting rights.
Hit 70, you’re done. Go find something else to do, the needs and wants of the Nation are no longer your purview.
Would be nice if he put his money where his mouth is. He’s 81 years old, but I bet he’s still gonna show up Tuesday.
I see what you’re getting at, but we need to be careful here as we’ll be 70 too at some point.
Under that precedent, gen-Alpha conservicans would likely unanimously vote to have us all thrown into the sea to save on healthcare costs or something. Lmao
Yes, and when I and you, and anyone else hits 70, then their time influencing the future is over. That’s a ballgame, folks.
It’s nothing but pure fucking hubris that keeps these antideluvian fossils in their power stations. Society does not benefit. In fact, progress is constrained as a result.
So yeah, we will all be old one day. But that doesn’t mean we’re all destined to be sad old narcissists.
So yeah, we will all be old one day. But that doesn’t mean we’re all destined to be sad old narcissists.
Right! Of course not! My point is that in this case, age isn’t the problem, it’s still just narcissistic power hungry jerks voting. They just so happen to curse us with their longevity.
So taking voting rights away for all after a certain age wouldn’t serve us, but if overall we keep voting in altruistic ways, we can still do a lot of good into our later years.
If you mean they shouldn’t be in office calling the shots for us at that age though, I TOTALLY agree.
I think more people will trend against that with time, and we will kill the “you lean more right with age” myth once and for all. :)
Wishing you a long and prosperous life, BTW. <3
He doesn’t believe in facts… He believes in what he feels is right. His own words I fuck u not
Gingrich cheats on wives while they die and suffer from illness, talk about sick shit…
He’s such a P.O.S.
Man this guy just won’t die. He keeps coming back to fuck up politics over and over again.
He also won’t get better. That witch has a lot to answer for.
I legit wouldn’t be surprised at this point if Qanon was right, but it was just another case of their own ilk blaming others for what they’re already doing.
The entire party is “weird” at this point and refuse to die whilst leading incredibly unhealthy lives. Who’s to say they aren’t up to occult dark-ritual weirdness, mad science, and siphoning lifeforce from kidnapped youth around the world?
(Yes I’m being satirical but also if it had any truth to it, it would TOTALLY be THESE GUYS doing it and blaming it on “the others” amirite?)
I mean, he’s right in one way, you certainly ought to be able to talk about who you are voting for without fear. Communication, debate, and choose for yourself. So really the far right are just reaping what they have sown, I don’t see how he can blame the ad.
Women should vote this time because they might lose the right to vote next time. I guarantee that if Trump wins but its clear that many women voted against the wishes of their husband some Project 2025 shit heel is going to come up with the idea that men should be able to vote by proxy for their wives so that they don’t vote wrong and cancel out their husband’s vote.
I mean, he’s right in one way, you certainly ought to be able to talk about who you are voting for without fear.
Absolutely. And if you can’t, you’re in the wrong marriage. If women were free to leave Republican husbands without fear of harm, red-cap affiliation would be a more telling demographic for social isolation and lonliness than it already is.
Serial Philanderer Makes “Moral” Judgement . FTFY
Our moral backbone, Newt Gingrich:
She (Marianne Gingrich) said Newt moved for the divorce just months after she had been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, with her then-husband present.
“He also was advised by the doctor when I was sitting there that I was not to be under stress. He knew,” she said.
Gingrich divorced his first wife, Jackie, as she was being treated for cancer. His relationship with Marianne began while he was still married to Jackie but in divorce proceedings, Marianne said.
All of this was going on in private, while publicly, he was spearheading the vanguard of what has become the modern Christo-fascist movement. “Moral Majority,” he called it. While cheating on his terminally ill wife.
Fucking snake.
She’s surprised he did the same shit to her. I mean, what else do you expect?
She’s not a winner, either
The usual line from these assholes goes like “I’m just a flawed human being like everyone else but I’m trying real hard to walk the line”
