There can be information that’s classified, then a reporter finds out about it and it gets printed in the NY Times. But that information is still classified.

Correct.

So you can simultaneously be discussing something that’s public knowledge and also classified.

Semi-correct. If you’re in a position of knowledge about the classified info, you don’t discuss it in earshot of people without a need to know whether ir not it’s public knowledge. You just drop a bunch of “no comment” or “I can neither confirm nor deny” or “that’s classified, I can’t say shit.”

Fox News blasted at you 24/7 in the mess hall and you got suckered by it.

I was blue-leaning when I joined, and blue-as-fuck by the time I separated. I had a healthy hatred for Fox from day one. Working in an on-base hospital, the only time the news was on was in the breakroom and I was pretty quick to change the channel and then lecture the dipshits who were in there before me about putting political shit on at work. The second time I ran into that, I bitched up the chain, and they threatened the entire department to have the TV removed from the breakroom if it became an ongoing issue. Still popped up occasionally, but honestly that shit’s way worse at the civilian hospital I work at now than anything I ran into in the military. In all fairness though, medical USAF is probably the bluest slice of the military there is; and I live in the cousin-fuckingly-deep-south right now, which is home to the reddest slice of the healthcare community there is, so contrasting the two definitely isn’t reflective of either ‘whole’ that either of those slices belong to.

…I got most of my news from Reddit at that time; which isn’t to say I’m above getting duped like anyone else, but one of the things I like about these kinds of link aggregates is that you can get multiple perspectives from breaking news at a fairly quick glance.

(as your President says you are)

I mean, they did get me with the healthcare and college. Also fuck that guy.

so you’re going to go on pretending that you have some special knowledge that no one else has.

What? Did you even read my rant? Half my take was on the basis that I specifically didn’t know shit - I was an e-nothing medic - but even as an e-nothing medic I had to take regular training to ensure the infosec shit was absolutely drilled into my brain. It was common knowledge even for folks like me who don’t handle classified info at all. The whole point was to contrast myself against someone like a Secretary of State whose knowledge about how to handle classified info should blow my dumb ass out of the water; but that even my dumb ass could recognize the incredibly blatant fuckups.

Hilary Clinton is a smart woman

Correct. But that doesn’t mean she can’t make bad choices.

Trump and his gang are a bunch of morons.

Semi-correct. Trump and his gang play an extremely convincing gaggle of village idiots, and while there’s certainly no shortage of sincere stupidity, there’s also a degree of planned and jaw-droppingly well executed malice coming from those traitors, and I refuse to dismiss it as just stupid people blundering their way through a series of mistakes that just so happen exclusively fuck up our own country and allies while strengthening our enemies. The existence of these shitstains is the most convincing RL parallel to the Darth Jar Jar fan theory I’m aware of: so long as you can play a convincing-enough dumbass, you can get away with a ridiculous amount of evil.

So, I’d encourage you and anyone else reading this to focus less on the stupid and more on the malice. The stupid is distracting; the malice highlights Trump and his circle as domestic enemies to the US.

Your country is fucked and it’s not going to get any better until y’all can start admitting that you got scammed.

My country is fucked because two-thirds of us either actively wanted an enemy of the US to be our president, or were so undisturbed by that possibility that they couldn’t even be bothered to color in a quarter-inch rectangle to stop it. Most of us are some combination of stupid, apathetic, or evil; and I have zero faith that’s going to change any time soon. Idk what country you’re in, but pressure your representatives to put and keep the pressure on us - first step to us getting our shit together is for the ‘find out’ stage to hurt bad enough to make a lasting impression.

In the heat of the race, absolutely. As shitty as it is, that’s strategy. Leading up to the 2024 election I was PISSED at the Biden campaign over its ongoing support for genocide; but I kept that shit to myself. It would have done no good to whine about ‘genocide joe’ if all that could accomplish is ‘10x worse genocide don’. Was ready to vote for Biden, then they switched to Harris, and same complaint, same silence, and same vote plan - she got my vote. …not that that did any good.

Same with Hillary. I didn’t like her either, but in a race of her vs Trump it’s no contest - she looks like a literal angel next to the orange traitor. So I kept the criticism to myself in hopes of walking out of it with the lesser evil.

Both times, we got the greater evil. Cuz collectively we’re some combination of apathetic, stupid, or evil.

A weather report can be classified. Something that’s been published in the NY Times might be classified … could … could … could … could … could …

Not all classified information is about a military operation that’s set to kick off in a few hours.

…and? Not all classified info is benign shit either. I didn’t personally assess the contents of Hillary’s server, or Bush’s server, or all the idiots using private email, but I’m not going to give any of them the benefit of the doubt and assume their specific infractions are harmless. Fuck that. They know the rules, they need to follow them.

Hillary Clinton was very thoroughly investigated and the classified information was a big nothing-burger. Or do you honestly believe the Trump administration gave her a pass because they’re benevolent?

Nothing ever happens to any of these dipshits. Every fucking administration gives the one before it a pass for this shit, and that’s what makes me so mad about it this. It needs to stop.

It’s illegal to use government property for campaign purposes. Obviously Clinton was working towards a presidential campaign (she was working towards it her entire life) so the laws necessitated her to have emails related to that not be on a government server (government property).

It’s also illegal to store classified info on the non-government machine you’re using to run a campaign. Classification aside, is it really too much to expect her to know the difference between work related vs private communication? Most people have a pretty solid hold on that about 5 minutes after accepting their first job that requires them to use a company/agency email…

Sorry, Hilary’s emails wasn’t anything. You were just told that over and over again until it started to sound like there might be something to it. But it was nothing.

No, I was active duty when the situation was first breaking, and joined the DoD in a collective facepalm and angry “this shit again?!” cuz if any of us did it, we’d be court martialed.

You may not want it to be anything, and you might try to rationalize that by assuming a best case scenario or contrasting it against fuckers like Trump who are orders of magnitude worse, but that doesn’t give Hillary or anyone before or after her a pass.

Copy and pasting from a similar thread - tldr is that lapses in infosec are fucked because it’s a direct attack on YOUR security; and any official info running through other-than-official channels is fucked because that’s an attack on your rights as a citizen by circumventing FOIA or accountability. When that happens, you should be pissed off regardless of which side of the aisle the culprit resides on.

Anyway…

I keep seeing Hillary’s server brought up to highlight the red team’s hypocrisy, but there’s some introspection to be had for us as well on that topic.

Hillary’s email server was one of many stepping stones on the path of increasingly fucked infosec. Now, the vast majority of neanderthals foaming at the mouth over her emails only gave a damn about it because of the (D) next to her name, but those idiots getting angry at it for the wrong reasons doesn’t mean it wasn’t a big deal.

My perspective on all that when the story was first breaking: I was fairly new e-nothing junior enlisted medic in the USAF. The closest thing to classified info I ever dealt with was ‘confidential’ medical shit covered by HIPAA, and like people’s social security numbers. That’s it. But even with zero-access to military secrets, at the absolute rock-bottom of the chain of command, I still had to take lengthy infosec courses every year (or every quarter? idr) to ensure I knew how to identify and properly handle classified information. Fuckups in infosec are NOT tolerated: like if I took a single page of classified info home without authorization, that’d be a court martial / potential jail time / stripped of rank / dishonorable discharge level offense. Then we have a fucking Secretary of State - someone who handles classified info all the time and should be a subject matter expert on the do’s and don’ts of it - running her own shady-ass server away from the prying eyes of FOIA, claiming to not recognize classified indicators?? Then before anything could be done about it, we got the whole bleach-bit and hammer-to-harddrives scene, so some nice destruction of evidence as the cherry on top.

100% we should have crucified her.

Just like we should have crucified the dipshits before her using private email platforms like gmail or some shit to send or receive official / classified communication. Every one of those fuckers knew better.

Then Trump happens and makes everything prior, Hillary and all, look like fucking j-walking compared to the scale and blatancy of his crimes. ‘Crucified’ doesn’t even begin to describe what needs to happen to that fucking traitor.

…but the dismissiveness regarding the email server does kinda strike a nerve for me - she fucked up BAD, and we dropped the ball by not holding her accountable, as that left the door open for dipshits like Trump to continue the trend of worse and worse infosec.

Again, it’s peanuts compared to Trump - I hate writing shit like this for even the flicker of a possibility of drawing a false equivalence. There is no equivalence here. But I really wish we’d collectively change our tone about handwaving the ‘buttery males!’ shit because it is hypocritical to do that and then get pissy about the red team’s conceptually-similar-albeit-orders-of-magnitude-more-severe fuckups.

At the end of the day, we should expect our leaders to do their job and do it correctly. If they don’t, then get angry - it’s your security they’re playing with. None of them get the benefit of the doubt, regardless of which color their campaign stickers are.

Government should be 100% secular.

Wouldn’t that be nice.

The explanation is that it isn’t.

You know those apple slicer things that look like a wagon wheel pattern blade with a circle in the middle so you can core it and slice it in one swoop? We found one for watermelons. No shit. In hindsight, I’m guessing it was supposed to be more of a funny novelty than something actually used, but… we used it…

It made it about half an inch into the melon, then shattered like it was some kind of ACME explosion. Bits of plastic went EVERYWHERE, my melon was now wearing a crown of blades, and I was just standing there with a handle still in each hand trying to process wtf just happened, like Wile-E-Coyote still holding the steering wheel of the car that just blew up around him looking straight at the camera like “well that just fucking happened…”

0/10

In English it’s usually “FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU–…” (trimmed due to character limit per post)

Meaning varies with context, but it’s most often an assessment of current events.

But an arrest and trial would

be an absolute pony show ending with no conviction.

We only have a criminal justice system for the poors. If you want justice for people like Musk, vigilante is the only option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTBMznLrWs

lol. This was the only glitch?

Remember when your dumb asses fired the people who maintain the nuclear stock pile?

That was all intentional. Everything he’s done to fuck up the US, the economy, and our relationship with our allies has all gone according to plan, because he’s an enemy to the United States and a domestic threat to our Constitution.

There’s nothing elite about those leeches. We’ve allowed them to rob us of our blood for so long that they’ve swelled to a ridiculous size, but that’s nothing a blade and some fire can’t fix.

…all I want is a President who can assume the duties of a President. Starting to feel like a unicorn.

I mean, no amount of torture will ever be proportional to the amount of suffering he’s caused, so, if the opportunity presents to make his death excruciating, then by all means: my point is simply that all that takes the back burner to stopping him from damaging our country/planet.

Stop him at any cost; use him as an opportunity to send a warning to other oligarchs if able.

Posthumously.

While he certainly deserves to suffer proportional to the suffering he’s causing, top priority is stop him from causing more - if that means he ends up taking a bullet in a manner that renders him incapable of processing what’s happening, I’ll still count that as a good start.

I don’t want you dead, Elon.

Let’s not be hasty, now.

I’d set it on fire and make an insurance claim.

Politician should be a term of endearment; a person who dedicates their time to directly improving their communities.

Corrupt politicians are where the problem lies - the solution there is to make a few cuts.

Which Federal Agency is going to do that? One under the Department of Justice?