People die in heat and live in their cars.

It’s just called dry camping, some people don’t have a choice.

I’m emphasizing that even if she had left them.in her home for that long, it is wrong. Obviously it is worse because of the car

Dry camping is just a term for sleeping in your car. It isn’t literally camping per se but it can be.

You have to use an AC when it’s hot out or you’ll die.

Using a clothes dryer has a bigger impact than a hybrid car running AC.

If they have a hybrid, the engine doesn’t idle all night, only intermittently to charge the battery.

It is more ethical and better for the environment to leave a hybrid running all night (engine only kicking on every so often) than a typical home or apartment which has a much bigger daily carbon impact. A hybrid isn’t the same as a normal idling car.

People die in heat and live in their cars. Do you go without air conditioning when it’s over 100 degrees out? No, because you don’t want to die of heatstroke, right? So why is your indoor climate control more justified?

And yeah car exhaust is bad for everyone, I agree, including the person in the idling car.

If they have a hybrid, it is more ethical and better for the environment to leave it running all night (engine only kicking on every so often) than a typical home or apartment which has a much bigger daily carbon impact.

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And she had a hybrid vehicle btw

It’s a Toyota hybrid though, they are regularly used for camping.

https://www.reddit.com/r/priusdwellers/

The engine getting overheated isn’t usually a concern because it only turns on to charge the big battery. Sometimes if it’s hot inside the car, the engine in Toyota hybrids will stay on indefinitely, but thats to reduce the heat on the big battery. If the inside of the car is cool, then the big battery is cooled and the engine won’t stay on. Even in 101 degree heat, that’s still over 100degrees additional to overheat an engine and it only runs for about 5min at a time to charge the big battery.

I would never use this info as an excuse to do what she did though ofc, no one should leave children that small unattended in a car, not even for 5minutes.

People regularly camp overnight in their Toyota hybrids with them running, there’s an entire Prius camping subreddit about it. I’ve done it myself to visit a dying family member in the desert, it only cost me $5.00 of gas to let it run all night with AC on. Engine only kicks on to charge the battery. So the car itself is whatever.

Yeah I still think she should be charged with child endangerment though because you never leave kids that young (too young apparently to open the door and leave) alone unattended, especially for that long.

He is using manipulative language (gaslighting) so he can get access to your healthcare information, that’s what that means.

I wish we could’ve heard what they discussed so bad

Trump is selling us off to China, he said so today in the cabinet meeting. Everything is expensive because China owns it. Climate change is here, AMOC collapse is ongoing, we’re pretty fucked tbh. So they need land and clean water for their people, we all do. Floods absolutely destroy/contaminate clean water sources like lakes. And there’s been massive floods globally, especially in China.

Lol

Sure, if you declare it, it must be so. Other people can read and can see your strawmans. You just look pompous and egotistical.

Yeah I’m done educating you tbh. Not worth my time when you’re arguing in bad faith.

Learn what a strawman is. 90% of your post was strawman after strawman.

Define strawman for me, kiddo. Then re-read your above comment. I counted 6, can you find all 6 strawman arguments in your comment?

The conversation was never about you or your ego, but youve thoroughly convinced me with this conversation that you are probably both racist and a eugenicist - hit dog hollers and you seriously keep identifying yourself as the racist eugenicist here with no prompting from anyone else. Ig if that’s who you are then, whatever. I dont talk to eugenicist racists either.

I addressed that point by saying their intent to be racist or not is irrelevant when we focus on impact to the actual victims (ie systemic racism). Who cares about the individual engineer’s morality and thoughts when we have provable, measurable evidence of racial disparity that we can correct easily?

It literally allows black people to die and saves white people more. That’s eugenics.

It is fine to coordinate with universities in like Kenya, what are you talking about?

I never said shit about the makers of THIS tool being punished! Learn to read! I said the tool needs fixed!

Like seriously you are constantly taking the position of the white male, empathizing, then running interference for him as if he was you and as if I’m your mommy about to spank you. Stop being weird and projecting your bullshit.

Yes, doctors who use this tool on their black patients and white patients equally would be perofmring eugenics, just like the doctors who sterikized indigenous women because they were poor were doing the same. Again, intent and your ego isn’t relevanf when we focus on impacts to victims and how to help them.

We should demand they work in a very meaningful way to get the data to be as good for black people as their #1 priority, ie doing studies and collecting that data

It isn’t crazy and it’s the basis for bioethics, something I had to learn about when becoming a bioengineer who also worked with people who literally designed AI today and they continue to work with MIT, Google, and Stanford on machine learning… I have spoked extensively with these people about ethics and a large portion of any AI engineer’s job is literally just ethics. Actually, a lot of engineering is learning ethics and accidents - they go hand in hand, like the Hotel Hyatt collapse.

I never suggested they stop developing the screening technology, don’t strawman, it’s boring. I literally gave suggestions for how they can fix it and fix their data so it is no longer functioning as a tool of eugenics.

Different case below, but related sentiment that AI is NOT a separate entity from its creators/engineers and they ABSOLUTELY should be held liable for the outcomes of what they engineer regardless of provable intent.

https://lemmy.world/post/21189801/13055286

You don’t think the people who make the generative algorithm have a duty to what it generates?

And whatever you think anyway, the company itself shows that it feels obligated about what the AI puts out, because they are constantly trying to stop the AI from giving out bomb instructions and hate speech and illegal sexual content.

The standard is not and was never if they were “entirely” at fault here. It’s whether they have any responsibility towards this (and we all here can see that they do indeed have some), and how much financially that’s worth in damages.

They absolutely have power over the data sets.

They could also fund research into other cancers and work with other countries like ones in Africa where there are more black people to sample.

It’s impossible to know intent but it does seem pretty intentionally eugenics of them to do this when it has been widely criticized and they refuse to fix it. So I’d say it is explicitly racist.

I gave reputable sources.

No, Putin owns Trump. Everything Trump does is literally at Putin’s request. Same with Bukele. Assad. And yeah, possibly Israel/Netanyahu, it’s hard to know how much they know. Because BRICS united those countries to do this to weaken USD globally and thus US control. And each country that helped BRICS will get a military objective from the west, and Iran wants Israel apparently (it’s likely Saudi Arabia is a secret member who will get part of Israel along w maybe Egypt). Russia wants everything the arctic ocean touches. China wants Taiwan, the South China Sea, and probably Australia (gold). I habe write ups in my history about it with links proving Trump/Russia connection. Iran and Russia worked together to get Trump elected in 2024:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2766

Bibi got Trump elected same way as Iran Contra hostage situation, by holding the hostages against Biden by proxy so he couldn’t resolve the Gaza issues. It’s likely Epstein worked for Maxwell whose father worked to fly Jewish kids in bad situations from Europe to Israel. I have a link in my posts from a news article at the time.

So both Russia and Israel have blackmail on Trump, and it seems likely Russia has something on Netanyahu to get him to betray his own people like this. Or maybe he just wants money and power. Idk.

But they are seemingly pawns of BRICS/Russia/China, selling out their own people for greed. My guess is that China will come out ahead. And before you give me a bunch of rich authoritarian propaganda about actually China is great, remember the Uyghers? They had gold. The first genocides of BRICS (called “gold BRICS” in China) were over minority groups that lived on land with gold. And the reason they live there, is bc land that has gold is usually volcanic and dangerous, and usually has severe mercury contamination from the 1800s practices of gold mining. So they coralled these people off to deadly shitholes, and now they are genociding them and enslaving us and moving us to random countries so we can’t escape and live outside to make us work those deadly shitholes so they can be entombed in liquid gold while climate change eats us. Sorry, I mean, their bunkers and space ships to save them from bombs will totally work and the Titanic sub wasnt a testament to the wealthy’s ignorance of science and deadly hubris

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458