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    “Someone else offered much more, so what? Now they come up with something called ‘disgorgement.’ I never even heard of the term. WITCH HUNT!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!” Trump wrote.

    Disgorgement is a remedy requiring a party who profits from illegal or wrongful acts to give up any profits they made as a result of that illegal or wrongful conduct. The purpose of this remedy is to prevent unjust enrichment and make illegal conduct unprofitable.

    Congratulations, both me, you, and Donald Trump learned something new today.

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    I love that “idiot sons” is actually part of the real headline.

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    Sometimes I wonder what he expects to happen? Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify, everyone else who testified were listed as witnesses from the start, like did no explain to him what that list of people meant? I can’t tell if this is just a trump thing, or an old person thing, or a billionaire thing where you can’t understand simple ideas like, " these people know something about the case, they will testify under oath about it." Also, $15000 fine for breaking a gag order doesn’t seem like the right punishment for a “billionaire”. If it were me on trial that would put me in debt, but Trump is a billionaire, $15,000 is not going to affect his life that much. It seems like the consequences need to scale based on the individual if you actually want people to follow the gag order.

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      He’s all about controlling the narrative. He wants his base to get pissed off because “the libs are going after his kids to get back at him.”

      But go ahead and ask him what he thinks about all the Hunter Biden investigations.

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      but Trump is a billionaire,

      well. he says he is. In this one case, lets take him at his word and charge 15 billion instead.

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      He’s playing to his donors and staying in the headlines. He’s pulling in millions in donations every time he complains. It’s making a mockery of the judicial system and campaign finance to fleece his electorate. The gag order should have been much more broad.

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          While not with this case, because this case is civil, He’s on felony pretrial release on 4? other cases. If virtually ANY other defendent had said any number of the things he said, that pretrial release would be revoked and he would be in jail pending trial. His rights are extremely limited in the situation he is in and it’s well within the courts jurisdiction to limit the things he does all the way up to jailing him. That includes limiting his speech, house arrest, etc.

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            Eh, while not normal, the things he’s said are rather typical of upset defendants, and most of those don’t find themselves behind bars for it either. You could search social media for people on trial for a lot of crimes and find them saying substantially similar claims about the system, prosecutors, or judges targeting them or having it in for them.

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          His repeatedly engaging in various forms of fraud and intimidation provides a perfectly valid legal basis for those rights to be curtailed significantly.

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          UnFortunately, dude still has rights, regardless of how many times he breaks the law, or makes a mockery of it.

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      I’m hoping that the $5,000 and $10,000 fines are the judge’s way of making any future punishments appeal proof. M

      If the judge went right to “jail Trump” on the first infraction, Trump could appeal and get the jail time reversed. What’s more, Trump’s lawyers might be able to allege that the judge was biased and get the whole thing tossed.

      But if the judge starts slow and ramps up, it will be evident to any appeals court that the judge tried everything he could to avoid serious repercussions and Trump simply gave him no choice.

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        Yeah but it still totally sucks that Trump always gets the extra-super-fair-and-reasonable-wet-lettuce end of the stick.

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      Add an exponent after each one. Should have been 5000 the first time then multiply by an ever increasing number each time. 10000, 30000, 120000, 600000, 3.6m ,25.2m

      He would have to stop by 3.6 million since that is probably more liquid cash then he has available.

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      Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify

      That’s boring though. With Trump he always has to turn it in to a spectacle, then the reporting amps it up even further (“melts down,” just like a nuclear reactor!) That’s how Trump’s political brand was created in the first place.

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    Seriously now, why is he so upset that his kids have to testify? It’s not like they’re being arrested. All they have to do is get up there and (at least pretend to) tell the truth. What’s so awful about that?

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      He’s probably afraid that they’ll slip up and prove that he really did everything that’s been claimed, that has a mountain of evidence, and that he’s already been found liable for.

      Wouldn’t you be worried if your entire financial well-being depended on Don Jr and Eric?

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      I’m hoping they ask questions that they know the kids will perjure themselves lying about and that they have proof that they know what the truth is.

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      He’s losing. He’s not talking to the court, he’s talking to the “stand back and stand by” crowd.

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    Ffs put that crap heap of a sorry excuse for a human being in jail already. Preferably supermax, I recommend Terre Haute, Indiana. No, wait, a 250% booked medium security with hundreds of beds in a school gym. Yeah. That’ll do.

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      He’d be the leader of some skin head gang by the end of the first day. Enjoying special privileges from prison staff that are believers. It would put him in direct contact with very dangerous people that idolize the image he’s projected, people he wouldn’t normally be caught dead talking to.

      I’d prefer house arrest for him, keep him comfortable enough to prevent too much complaints. Isolated enough to prevent damage. No visitors, no internet, but lots of Big Macs and KFC. His very own Elba.

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        Wait wait wait, now that you mention Elba, don’t we have a bunch of bird shit islands that we could build a house on and ship mcdonalds to for him?

        I’d be fine with that as long as there’s no wifi and we never hear from him again.

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        His very own Elba.

        Read this as ebola at first and thought it took a delightful twist at the end.

        I unfortunately agree: a former POTUS will never go to a regular prison. I’ll settle for house arrest.

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    The Trump family and Musk are both prime examples of why you shouldn’t pass on excessive wealth to your children. Your kids or grandkids will grow up to be complete idiots, or at least, they have a higher chance of it.

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      Don’t attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice.

      Trump is an idiot. Musk is evil. Musk didn’t buy Xitter to make it better, despite his claim of being capable of making it more profitable. He bought it using a shitload of Saudi oil money in order to destroy one of the largest platforms for leftist voices in the western world. This wasn’t just him blustering into a 25 billion dollar loss on Xitter. What Musk does is very intentional.

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        Eh. I’ll agree to disagree. There’s a reason the razor is the exact opposite, to first attribute to stupidity and then to malice.

        There’s no way Elon would’ve agreed to trash his reputation like this to kill Twitter. He’s far too egotistical and craves worship.

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          Think about it this way.

          He trashed the reputation he gained amongst well educated millenials to look good in the eyes of the same people who voted for Trump.

          What’s more important as a billionaire narcissist? Constantly having to navigate your support base, a support base you inherently disagree with, or developing one that will support you no matter what you do?

          Idk, food for thought.

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            Yes, but his business model’s primary target is well educated millennials. I know I’m not the only one who went from thinking of getting a Tesla as my next car to looking at what competitors have.

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          Agreed. I think he’s not even 1/10th as smart as his fanbois seem to think he is. I think he also set out to life the voices of the alt-right, though.

          But I bet he didn’t think his purchase would be worth less than half a year after he bought it and completely mismanaged it.

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      Trump Melt-Up Sandwich: $32. Made with stale white gas station bread, coated with cheeto crumbs, filled with moldy bologna with a side of dog shit

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        Hi everyone it’s me President Trump introducing the only official Trump Sandwich. It’s got everything a sandwich should be with the outstanding quality you expect, you’re truly going to love it. It’s like luxury in your mouth I tell you, and look at this deal. I know you’re thinking, “only this much for a sandwich? How can it be good? Well let me tell you, we have a great deal here that you’ll only find through my official Trump brand.” People are saying it’s probably the best sandwich they’ve ever had, good people say this, people who love sandwiches, people who eat sandwiches every day… we love sandwiches don’t we? Yes we love em! We love the sandwiches!! And now you’re gonna love my sandwich, I know you are. I can’t wait til you and all your loved ones try it, it’s going to be so great, and it makes me so happy to share it with you.

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        This is a great idea actually. A real sandwich shop with one joke sandwich that’s just totally gross. Uk some maga turd will order it just cuZ his entire personality is trump and just get rekt.

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      It’s one of those hyperbolic headline words, in actuality it’s a pathetic complain post that reads like all his others. I’m sure the judge will “absolutely obliterate” him later by sitting there and doing their job.