Funko Pops, to me.

I understand that some of them are fairly overpriced, but I also really like them as is. It doesn’t work on all characters, but it sometimes work on a lot and there’s so much representation and variety that it’s good to have a few.

If people want to talk about waste of plastic and vinyl, they should bark at the companies who make teeny tiny figurines that serve no purpose and have so little detail that spending any money on them is a waste.

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      <3

      Edit: it’s… sadly very easy to forget that you don’t deserve the hate, which is why I didn’t put this in my post. It’s something I’ve been trying to work through lately.

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      My first thought was this, and when I opened the thread your reply was the first response listed as well.

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      Yeah. I feel like they get so much hate because they are the closest symbol for “maybe things aren’t as clear cut as you thought”, and it freaks people out.

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        I think also some people who feel like they can’t be as openly homophobic as they used to be in the 80s/90s/2000s have just transferred their bigotry onto trans people instead because they think they can get away with it.

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      The reason they’re being hated is entirely for religious reasons. Just like any other individual from the LGBTQ umbrella are scorned similarly.

      But I have to play devil’s advocate now that I’m thinking of it, but one thing I don’t like about trans people, isn’t just who they are. It’s the spotlight is primarily on them, by a community that had once stressed about caring about all individuals of all backgrounds. Yet, Trans people got all the attention almost and what that has caused is levels of infighting and people giving cold shoulders. They’re from people who’re gay or bisexual (which these days, bisexual people feel shunned the most).

      That’s not what should happen but unfortunately, it is and I don’t like that people just suddenly decide who gets more priority over others. That’s not equality.

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        But I have to play devil’s advocate

        That’s not being a devils advocate, it’s just plain transphobia. As if trans people somehow have the power social power to choose the worlds attention.

        You say hate is for religious reasons, and then blame the victims of that hate for the attention they’re getting from their oppressors, the very people you yourself just said are responsible for it.

        And honest opinion or not, you chose to spend your energy undermining a trans person talking about our oppression, when you could simply have chosen to not do that. And that shit is creating the very problem you just blamed trans people for

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          Do you even know what a ‘devil’s advocate’ is? No, so you just jump to a baseless assumption instead which clues me in, into how intellectually inefficient you are. A devil’s advocate is “a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.”

          You continue to entangle and twist the context of my comments to squeeze into your narrative. And you want to talk about undermining? You are truly insufferable. Maybe you ought to take a look into the mirror and understand that your attitude partly contributes to some of the more legitimate problems people have against trans people such as you. And why your kind is being used as a platform to base trans people off as which is trigger-happy, oversensitive, broken people.

          Congratulations for proving me right. And this is coming from a non-binary bisexual individual by the way.

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    Waterworld is a fantastic movie. Creative world-building, unbelievable sets, stunts and performances (Dennis Hoper as an over the top villain? Yes please) I just can’t understand all of the hate it received!

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      I don’t think I’m quite as effusive about it as you, but it was a good movie and I don’t understand the hate either

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      I’ll talk all kinds of shit about that movie, but I’ve watched it end to end more times than most movies I’ve seen, and it’s never been a hate watch.

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      Finally someone likes this movie I loved it. I need to watch the ulysses cut sometime

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      I found it quite preachy, but still watchable if you don’t think about it too hard.

      “Oil = bad”. “Smokers = bad”. Hopper aside, the bad guys were as shallow as you can get in character development.

      Plus at 2h15m it was about 45 minutes longer than it should have been, and Kevin Costner is a polarising actor for some due to his lack of charisma.

      All that said, I watched it twice. Once partly to admire Jeanne Tripplehorn’s dress, which should have got a best supporting role.

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      May I see your Waterworld and raise you a Poseidon Adventure?

      A lot of fun movies get a bad wrap for being unserious and I fucking hate it.

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      it was bad for the studio. its production budget ballooned to $175M, total cost $235M. the most expensive movie ever made at the time. it lost money at the box office.

      i enjoyed it.

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    Imo they aren’t getting nearly enough of hate they deserve. I’m not against figure collecting in general but FP are the ugliest motherfucking thing i ever seen in this department, for the same amount of resources, labour and energy they could produce something much better. In fact, a consistent long serie of figures faithful to the original (not ultra-deformed) across so many franchises would been great, but alas only thing there is are those unholy abominations.

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      I also take issue with buying something that does nothing. “Oh I’m going to put this on that shelf and never touch it again”. It screams cash grab. They’re made of brittle plastic so you can’t play with them. And as you say, they’re ugly.

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        I would argue that collecting things having purely aesthetical value is also legit, though there is an issue about manufactured demand and role of merchandise in popculture, but fair enough.

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          I see benefits of displaying art made by a person, but I take issue with collecting. It feels like a form of hoarding.

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            I collect comics, which are (printed, yes, but) art made by people. Sometimes I’ll sell off a run, some I’ll keep forever because they’re fantastic. Different strokes ig.

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            It definitely can be, for example art is very often hoarded as form of investment, and this can be a much lower-price form of the same, but not necessarily. I would say the more those things price is, the more chance for hoarding.

            That is, economically. If you mean hoarding as in psychology probably it’s more depending on person, a lot of people i know including me were collecting more or less useless things but nobody i know went into true hoarding problem and most of those people at some point got bored and got rid of their collections. Other than above personal experience, idk.

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        You must hate furniture then. Because, I’d want my bookshelves, nightstands and even my bed to do SOMETHING.

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          Bookshelves hold books, nightstands hold plenty of shit, and beds hold my sleepy self.

          What were you trying to say?

          BTW, if you want to criticize throw pillows I’m happy to join in but I don’t understand your choice of furnishings to criticize.

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          I’m a woodworker, youtube often recommends me woodtube content. Tool reviews, project builds, shit like that. And occasionally “How I made $15k making these” with a thumbnail of a guy holding a simple pine triangle.

          Turns out he miter saws triangles out of pine, stains them, paints the tip of them white, and now it’s a mountain, which he sells on Etsy for damn near $30 for three. They are functionless and do nothing. And there’s apparently a demand for them.

          I refuse to sell trinkets like that. If I make anything, it will have some function. Maybe I will take some off-cuts and band saw out some apple-shaped coasters or something because keeping the condensation from your drink from puddling on your nice new table is a thing and it might as well be a fun shape, but I will always be that one step away from “pieces of wood to clutter your house with.”

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            Also a woodworker and primarily a tool maker for this reason. I want to make something USEFUL.

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              On my own projects (some of which you can find in !woodworking@lemmy.ca) I end up having narrow off-cuts, often from ripping boards to width. I save these up and when I’m sick of having them around I glue them up into panels, cut them into squares and make coasters out of them. They don’t really match anything other than they’re made of the same species I tend to work with.

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        Yes, but english language call “art” literally everything made with even a slightest hint of intention, which those things had to be because there is no other purpose (except lining the pockets of publishing mafia).

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    Also Korn’s dubstep album. Not every song was a hit, but there were quite a few bangers on that track list. Get Up got me into dubstep and still goes hard.

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      The worst that Nickelback is, is that they’re just vanilla and bland. But they’re also a band that has at least maybe a single or two songs that you might like. I really dig the Feed the Machine track from them and a few others.

      Korn’s dubstep album was…interestingly bad.

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        That’s another thing that’s unfair! Vanilla being synonymous with plain is nonsense. Vanilla is a flavor, and it’s delicious.

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      I feel like sometimes people just want to feel like they’re a part of something. Not consciously, necessarily. But like, “the in-group says nickelback sucks, so if I make a joke about how they’re bad people will laugh, and like me, and I’ll fit in”

      A lot of people never really stop being teenagers.

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      They have 2 or 3 songs that I consider to be fantastic, but a lot of generic stuff. Photograph is their worst song and was so overplayed when it came out.

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      Also Korn’s dubstep album. Not every song was a hit, but there were quite a few bangers on that track list. Get Up got me into dubstep and still goes hard.

      I just listened to it again, and it is definitely not as good as I remember it being. I was a fan of it, but I can definitely see how fans of either Korn or dupstep would have disliked it. “Get Up!” in particular is still just as good as I remember, though!

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    Crocs. I got my first pair when I was a teenager and they still work now (edit: 30yrs old); though I recently got a new pair because the bottoms were completely smooth on the old pair.

    “Ugly” cars. Aka Pontiac Aztec, PT Cruiser, Fiat Multipla, etc. Yeah, they might be ugly as sin, but they’re more interesting from a visual standpoint. I’d rather have the road filled with ugly cars than filled with cars that mostly look the same.

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      PT Cruisers would be fine if they were just ugly. Those things were notoriously unreliable.

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        Everything from Chrysler is junk. I worked for several dealers and general used car lots with my auto body shop business. Everything dodge/chrysler/plymouth was cut rate junk since the late 70’s and still is. At wholesale auctions, they are the joke cars people only bid on because they are so damn cheap it justifies playing roulette. Everything goes wrong with them.

        Like here we are nearly 20 years since I painted and I still remember there is a champagne/charcoal/silver metallic paint that came on Dodge/Chryslers. The color code was 4Q2. There were more unrelated variations under that color code than almost any other at the time. The only one I encountered that was worse was the charcoal metallic used on Chevy/GMC trucks and suburbans. That one has tone variability between yellow, red, and blue where getting it wrong meant remixing the color coat. With 4Q2 it was metallic grain size, tone between blue and yellow, and the flop characteristics (apparent color tone and clarity when viewed from an oblique angle).

        I remember many times thinking to myself that someone knew, if you have not figured it out, say “4Q2” out loud and fast… It was freaking personal, all those times I struggled with that color. Those cars were the dead inventory that was ever present on many lots I worked for, and they sat at the mechanics bays for much longer than any of the rest.

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          Preaching to the choir lol I wouldn’t touch a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat with a ten foot pole

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        Are they, though? They’re just Dodge Neons under the hood. And there were a ton of pt cruisers. I still see them now, 20 something years later. People seemed to take care of them and pass them onto their kids as they got older.

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          Dodge Neons weren’t reliable either. I rarely see PT Cruisers these days unless I’m at a scrapyard.

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            My neighbor drives one around and it definitely belongs there, it just gets louder and makes more random mechanical failure noises every time he drives it by

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      Many got over the hate and now appreciate them. They are also common addons for overnight hiking/bikepacking trips for when you set up camp and your feet are tired.

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      Crocs were hated? When?

      For me they just popped out of nowhere and everyone started wearing them all of a sudden which I found it weird. I am yet to own crocs myself. Not that I hate them, nor I am trying to avoid them, I just found them as weird.

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        Crocs were hated? When?

        I would say they are still hated right now.

        I just find them ugly, but there are some people with almost visceral reactions to them. “That’s not even a real shoe” kind of thing.

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          Lol yeah I do kinda find them ugly but since they are everywhere, they look less ugly as I got used to seeing them ig.

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    Microwaving food. Too many people think that it’s radiating the food. Its just making the water molecules in the food wiggle and heat up to warm the food through internal collisions.

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        That is true lol.

        The heating effect is more due to standing waves rotating the (polar) water molecules in the food.

        There aren’t hot radiation particles moving into and staying in the food like a number of people believe.

        Microwaves (and 5G) have much less energy than visible light, but its a scary sound word. People don’t like to think that they are exposed to radiation 100% of the time.

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          Microwaves are ~2.4GHz, same as wifi. That is the resonant freq of water. They don’t go deep, not even close to a milimeter. And it all converts to heat.

          The sun is more damageing then microwaves of same power. And ionizing radiation is the really harmful one.

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            That was a weird time, when troubleshooting internet connection issues was like “Is anyone using the microwave or perhaps a cordless phone at the moment?” Lol

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      I don’t like it, but that’s because it’s usually the faster but inferior quality option, bread/bun gets hard, sometimes uneven heating, some things get slimy, etc. I opt for toaster oven or range/pot/pan over microwave 9/10 times just because I have the extra 10-20min and prefer the quality. Radiation (for me) has nothing to do with it.

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        That’s a fair call and I’m the same, its not optimal for a lot reheating. I’ve met a fair few people who refuse to own or use a microwave because the don’t want their food “irradiated” or think that it is somehow unhealthy.

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      they often called it nuking. took a good 15 years before mass acceptance. early ones had warnings about standing near with pacemakers could kill you.

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    Men wearing wigs.

    For whatever reason, we’ve decided as a society that women wearing wigs/weaves/extensions to make themselves feel attractive and nice is perfectly normal, but if a man does it it’s laughable and pathetic. I say, wigs for anyone who wants them!

    Also before the accusations start, I’m not a bald dude lol.

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      Real talk - as a balding dude, there was a time when I was part of a bonus structure program, and I half-jokingly started looking at hair systems. Not because I’m balding and ashamed of it, whatever, but I missed being able to style my hair in a way that looked good. That, and I loved the idea of showing up to work with a whole head of hair, refusing to acknowledge it aside from saying I got a haircut. 'Cause that shit would’ve been hilarious.

      Ultimately decided against it, too much $ for vanity and a joke versus sensible balding guy haircuts/the occasional clear cut.

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        Get one and (after you tire of that excellent joke) swap it on/off and hide it when people have their back turned like Igor’s hump switching in Young Frankenstein.

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    Cyberpunk 2077 - it was overhyped as fuck but as someone who ignores the bullshit grind mill of video game journalism it was a decent game on release that became pretty fucking awesome after patches and the expansion.

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      Yeah I think once games reach a certain level of hype there’s almost no way to release them without getting a big backlash. People (IE gamers) tend to build these things up way too much in their minds and go in with really unrealistic expectations.

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        For me it just crashed often enough that it was frustrating to keep redoing things and one side quest got stuck because an enemy was half dead in the floor and I couldn’t finish them.

        I let the game rest and played it a year later, it was great then. Half a year later I played it a second time, with different gender, weapons focus, and starting background. It was great again :-)

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            You just reminded me of another one: Monster Hunter World had a leftover behaviour from testing or so. The button L would rotate the camera to the right, as a hardcoded invisible binding.

            That doesn’t matter much to most people, but I’m left handed, so my movement keys are IJKL instead of WASD. Rotating right whenever you want to step right is completely disorienting, I ended up returning it too.

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      Same with anything. I didn’t see the Barbie hype, went in an watched it and thought it was good. Same with the Wakanda film. Didn’t see any of the hype and had a great time.

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      It was a buggy mess on release and deserved the hate for that. Now 2.0 fixed that and redeemed it. It doesn’t deserve new hate.

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        Most of the release bugs were pretty minor and cosmetic - like cars exploding without warning.

        It absolutely wasn’t amazing on release but the gameplay and world were fun and engaging.

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          Absolutely not lmao. They made an open world game that’s set in the criminal underground of a busy city, but the police was literally unable to drive until a patch several weeks after launch. Which A LOT of people didn’t get to experience because for weeks the game wasn’t stable enough to playable for them anyway.

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        It honestly is. Pre-release hype is just marketing and we tend to enjoy things more if we don’t have high expectations coming in.

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    Windows Phone, particularly Windows Phone 8.1. It had its flaws, the biggest being the lack of third-party support of course but the UX was the best I’ve ever experienced on a mobile device.

    The UI was very different from Android/iOS but felt more consistent and intuitive. The Live Tiles especially were just such a good feature to get as much information as possible on one screen. And it all looked so incredibly good for the time with its silky smooth animations.

    It’s a shame Microsoft ruined it all with Windows Phone 10…

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      Also the keyboard! I have never used one I liked more until thumbkey came along :) The windows keyboard was so good for swipe typing, it makes me wonder how they now own swift key and it isn’t as good!

      When I had to go to Android (phone battery on the Lumia 950xl started swelling), I used things to replicate Windows Phone as it was so fun to use. :)

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      There’s still a dedicated community of windows phone enthusiasts. It definitely had something. Unfortunately I never got to try one

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      I legitimately miss my lumia 1020, I really liked the way that applications “flowed” as well, entire ui was really intuitive, maybe partly because I had a zune with the touch pad for years before getting a wp7, zune was another solid but memed on device.

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        Oh I wish I had a Zune HD, it’s exactly my kinda thing; quirky, niche and pretty much failed. I loved the interface of that old Zune media player that was available for Windows 7, used that for quite a while before switching to Foobar2k.

        Nokia Mix Radio was amazing as well, used that all the time on my Lumia 930.

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          The collage with artist information was really cool with the Zune media player, I’m Canadian so we didn’t get the Zune pass for a while, that during the iPod era was ahead of its time as a streaming service.

          The hard disk in my Zune died years ago and its totally been lost in moves unfortunately, would love to have flash modded it like people do with their old iPods, having a dedicated media device would be great. I’ve seen refurbed zune HDs on eBay, temptation is there, just need to find out if there’s any way to sync with the Zune media player, had a Foobar2k plugin years ago that did iPod syncing, something like that.

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    Teen Titans Go.

    I think most of the hate came from the people who grew up with the 2003 show, which ended abruptly, leading them to believe that TTG was meant to be a replacement.

    Most of the hate has died down now, but I still think all that contempt was unwarranted.

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      Yep, all 3 of my kids loved TTG. I understand where people are coming from but the show has some genuinely funny moments

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    That title isn’t getting as much hate as it deserves.

    It’s either “What do you think got way too much hate?” or “What do you think got way more hate than it should’ve?”. You somehow combined those sentences into a grammatically broken mess.

    And it’s fucked up that this hasn’t been pointed out and isn’t one of the top comments.

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      It hasn’t been pointed out and isn’t one of the top comments because nobody fucking cares.

      You are the epitome of 🤓

      Edit for people getting mad about this: The content of OP’s post is perfectly coherent, so it’s not like they’re daft and don’t know better. The title was a mistake, we’re human, we make them. Even if OP didn’t know better, one could just as easily assume that they aren’t a native speaker and politely correct it without being a complete dick about it like the comment above.

      But ultimately, who the fuck really cares? The notion that it’s ‘fucked up’ that people aren’t dogpiling on someone for making a grammatical error on Lemmy is fucking stupid.

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      Yep. Especially on right-wing instances like Lemmy.world in particular, but it’s far worse IRL in the West.

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      my opinion is that people who push for it havent lived in it. everything is lowest common denominator, if you can even get it. no incentive to invent, no reward for innovation.

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        You live in a fantasy invented by your own propaganda. I don’t even know how you’d measure what you’re saying at a mass scale, much less notice it while living in a country. “Oh man, if we were in a capitalist country, Jim would have invented a new form of sliced bread, but alas we are unmotivated by our available housing and food.”

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        Most people who oppose socialism haven’t lived in a socialist country. Meanwhile I’ve lived my whole life under capitalism and can see it doesn’t work for the vast majority of the population, or for the planet as a whole.

        Most of the world is capitalist, and most of the world is poor.

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        Can you explain what you mean by “lowest common denominator” as well as the bits on “no incentives or rewards for innovation?” The USSR was one of the mosy scientifically advanced countries in the 20th century.