I got a used Nissan Leaf (that was one year old, so people didn’t realize it was used). Everyone was constantly telling me that I should have bought used because the lithium for a new battery is worse than anything else in the world. When I told them it was used, they either said I should have gotten an older one, or they just stopped talking about it.

That’s disappointing, as I haven’t said anything untrue, but it doesn’t seem to have an impact on you, so you’re probably correct that there’s no point in continuing. I would encourage you to read more about Joe Lieberman, though.

You’re just extra br*tish

So 25k people vs 3 million? That’s not called listening to your constituents. He had been a democrat until a few years before this and broke ranks because of the Iraq war, so his disagreement on this issue came as a surprise to many Connecticut voters.

So we agree that Joe Lieberman voted against the interests of his constituents (the difference between the 1/3 and 2/3 of savings).

Some, but a lot don’t. Even if that was the only way to reduce healthcare costs, it would be a great application for eminent domain. Luckily, everyone else has a better solution than ours.

Other countries with universal healthcare don’t pay nearly as much as Americans do and not every industry needs to be saved. Health insurance companies are not even the biggest insurance employer in Connecticut, the vast majority of people in Connecticut had a net loss in not getting single payer through.

Of course we were affected. The last year I lived in Connecticut, I paid $13k for healthcare, as a mostly healthy person in my 20s.

Oh, he’d definitely try to secede.

Joe Lieberman, an independent who caucused with democrats from Connecticut, listened to the businesses in Connecticut, not his constituents. They didn’t re-elect him, but that’s cold comfort.

I was talking about Clinton. I don’t think Harris is a bad choice at all. Maybe yours should be a top level comment?

I mean, we at least said we were against it. Slavery, the trail of tears, the Chinese exclusion act, and internment camps, as well as meddling in other countries’ elections, drone strikes, and border camps aren’t exactly pro-democracy, let alone gerrymandering and voter suppression that have been prevalent in poor and minority communities since they were first allowed to vote. I wish we’d been democratic from the start, but I think MAGAers are just continuing an American pastime.

I hate accidentally ending up as mayor on vacation

What???

They jailed 1% of the population and devastated an entire generation at the very least, often for nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-bukele-central-america-crime-gangs-60c3a34c571dfdbdf0a203deb85abf71

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynne_Cheney

Here you go

Even she got more votes than trump, and that’s saying something.

True, but the grift that is a thrice-divorced philanderer who made his fame in business in casinos selling commemorative bibles is a real paragon of it.

I mean, they do… just not ones that are laid.

I mostly use it in the shower, so that might be true.

Okay, but it is really tough to go from acquaintance to friend, so I can see complaining about it.

At the same time though, I think most people have had the experience of someone trying to be closer than you want to be as friends, so it’s probably easier to have empathy, which I think is the biggest problem with incels.