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    Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.”

    Who the FUCK uses Edge on Linux??

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      Is there even a stable version for Linux? Last time I’ve checked it was still in beta

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        i don’t think i’ve ever used a microsoft product that didn’t feel like it was still in beta

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                Closest thing I can think of would be back in the day when colour palettes were small enough that paint had colour blends in its palette, if you filled with one of those, it didn’t treat that filled area as one colour so that you could fill it again with a different colour.

                But I wouldn’t even call that a bug so much as a lack of feature. And it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space. Lol I didn’t even realize I still had that memory in the archives.

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                  it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space

                  You might like this puzzle.

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        There’s a download link for .deb and .rpm on Microsoft’s website, with no disclaimer that it’s beta.

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      Used it for a while. One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in. Every other browser opens them in the window that last had focus so I regularly have work related links open up in the private profile.

      Also the performance was quite nice.

      But since they continuously rub new services in my face with new versions, I ditched it again.

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        Mozilla’s “Multi-Account Containers” extension on Firefox does a much better job at the multiple profiles feature you’ve described.

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          I miss the tab grouping from Chrome based browsers in Firefox.

          And I think tab containers don’t provide the separation I need to properly separate work from private.

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            You might be better off using a custom Firefox profile for that then. Not too well integrated UI-wise sadly though

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        You can do that in Chrome too, if you have multiple chrome profiles right clicking on links give you the option to open it in a different profiles window

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          Yes, but with “external” I meant opening links from other apps like Slack.

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            Yeah that’s what I mainly used it for. I would right click links on slack and make sure it would open on my work profile or not depending on the context of the link.

            Although this could potentially have been when I used the web app rather than the installed app, so i may be misremembering

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              In the WebApp this would work. Across apps it’s a different story, since they just invoke a system command to open the URL in the associated application. From there it’s in the hands of that application, how to deal with it.

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        It’s like they want to drive away the experienced users who don’t need their hands held and rarely need support to focus on the part of the market that will still find ways to break things no matter how much they dumb it down.

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        One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in.

        is this similar to Firefox containers? dunno why mozzila makes it as a plugin and hasn’t bundled it in yet as a standard feature, literally can’t live without it.

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          Not quite. Let’s say I have two profiles: “work” and “private”. If I have both open at the same time, they are separate browser windows with different tabs, different settings and different extentions.

          I can now specify that external links open in “work”. If I now click on a link in Slack or in Thunderbird, they open up in the window with the “work” profile, even if the “private” window was the last active one.

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      Just installed Edge on Arch after a disastrous Teams call with Firefox and Chromium, figured it was worth trying MS’ browser next time but I’m not holding my breath.

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        Edge is just Chromium. When they retired IE they switched. It might still work better because it’s the default supposedly built to work with their products so their tweaks should help. But it is Teams and they’ve been doing a lot more updates lately. Did you update to the new version of Teams they’ve been pushing? It’s bad and it’s performance is bad, so that can cause issues.

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      I use it for work - it allows me to keep things separate.

      EDIT

      For those telling me to change what I am doing, thanks, but no thanks. I use this solution because it works best for me.

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        Use different user accounts. That provides you with very stronger isolation and separation of concerns, with the bonus that you won’t be exposed to their crap.

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      Only thing I can think of is if you are developing a website or extension and need to make sure there isn’t some subtle browser difference. Though since it uses the same engine as Chrome, that use case should be a lot more niche than it used to be.

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        Heh reminds me when I was doing web development back in the day and had IE running on Linux. It actually made more sense to test compatibility with IE by running it through wine on Linux than actually doing it on Windows because I could have multiple versions of IE installed at the same time.

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      I mainly use Firefox but have Edge to test website with, can’t really uninstall it anyway.

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        Alright. This guy’s story checks out. Let’em through.

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          Damnit! Now I’ve oiled my pitchforks for nothing. Ah well… gues i’ll be visiting the political subs again…

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            Hey, I saw someone ask an innocent question about something they don’t know in a post down the street. Wanna go make fun that guy?

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        Well, I managed to uninstall it fully through Safe Mode and regedit but that made the fingerprint reader stop working. (It’s my sister’s laprop, okay? I use Mint on mine.)

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        It is possible to remove it, needs a bit of work and running scripts as admin to do it but you can figure out if you look it up. I can’t remember how I did it and I don’t use windows anymore but first page results should bring it up.

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        Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium for your tests? It’s the same browser anyway, just without the spyware.

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          Because your tests might react differently in an environment with spyware. And rounded corners. These are called Edge cases.

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      Much to the chagrin of a large portion of lemmy users Edge is not actually a bad browser. If you’re using a chromium based browser anyway there’s really nothing worse about edge than the other options. Obviously not talking about Firefox here.

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        Exactly. It’s my Chrome browser of choice. I use Firefox virtually all the time, but if I need somethiung that works in the cases where non-chromium does not, I use Edge. It’s a fast, its already installed so no extra fuss, it has the best vertical tab implementation that really should be standard for every single browser.

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          im in the same boat edge is pretty fire tho imo compared to chrome at least.

          i havent used it in a bit tho coz of firefox but its a fine browser firefox being good doesn’t make edge bad

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        Chagrin. When your step father Steve tells everyone in your school that you’re quote: as smooth as a seals behind down there… much to your chagrin.
        Chagrin.

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        I chose edge over chrome nowadays. But I’m still a firefox man. The AI help chat thingemejig of edge is also pretty okay.

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      Edge is really the best browser for Windows users with low end PCs.

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        pretty much because like IE, when using Windows part of it runs in the background whether you like it or not.

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      The experience in the enterprise as well as the management of it make sense for any company who are a m365 shop. Native seamless single sign on with corporate identities, along with syncing the browser make it a no brained for me to use for work. For personal stuff though I stick with Firefox.

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      It got way better in the past few years. I think everybody hates it, because the internet explorer was that slow. So it just stayed in our minds that the Microsoft browser sucked.

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          Most people on fedi will complain about there not being enough browser diversity and then immediately start worshipping and putting Firefox on a pedistal and complaining if anyone uses anything else

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              I really don’t get their take on FF use. Maybe they don’t realize that virtually ALL the other browser options are Chromium based. Your only real choices are Chrome | Safari | Firefox

              And Safari is only on apple devices. So for other devices its Chrome or Firefox. With Chrome having near market monopoly… so… yeah Firefox is diversity.

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                  Hmm… that should be possible shouldn’t it. Ok, my wife’s rarely used Thinkpad is turning into a my first Arch machine.

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                  Scratch that she doesn’t want me screwing with her laptop, she said to put it on my desktop. TBF I have a habit, or rather an ADHD, of starting ‘upgrades’ to things and leaving them in a non-functioning state for a while before finally coming back to them and finishing.

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      Got stuff at work (Microsoft services, for the record) that’ll work in Edge or Chrome, but not entirely in Firefox (gee, wonder why)

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    I gotta say I love that Microsoft has the self confidence to think that there are people who use edge on Linux.

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        Yea.

        It’s reskinned chromium. You can google it if you want. One of the top links is a .deb for me (I am running debian).

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          That’s … just what Edge is? On every OS it’s Chromium, they’re not shy about that fact. In fact they made a big deal of advertising that they were switching from whatever engine they were trying to half-bake when “new” Edge debuted.

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          Oh my, I had absolutely no idea. How long until microsoft comes out with Microsoft Office for Linux and it’s just reskinned LibreOffice

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            Edge is built on Chromium for every OS. When they developed it they said they were using Chromium. This is not special for Linux.

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      I do. It’s more secure than any other alternative. Not private, but really, really secure.

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        How is Edge secure in any way? It isn’t even open source & and both Google (Chromium) and Microsoft add their code to it, so even if Chromium were more secure than Firefox, you could just normal Chromium, couldn’t you?

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          Not being open source ≠ not safe.

          Microsoft ships hardened Chromium basically, with sandboxing turned up to eleven.

          They also run their SmartScreen filtering on top of that.

          Also, Firefox is more private, not secure. Either you run LibreFox or it’s less secure than Edge by default.

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      One of my son’s steam buddies is nicknamed Microsoft edging. I think it’s pretty funny, not sure my son gets it… (He’s 15 though, so it won’t be long)

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    As it’s Microsoft, you can be pretty sure the option to turn off the new look and feel will be removed in 6 months

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      Just because a few people on Reddit and Lemmy don’t like a thing, doesn’t mean that “nobody” likes it.

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        I was being hyperbolic. In the billions of people who inhabit this earth, I bet there’s like two or three who genuinely like it. But they are crazy, and their opinions are wrong.

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          Me! I am crazy and my opinion is that I like the round corners. Well, on Win11 where everything is rounded, anyway.

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          You are still discrediting anyone who doesn’t share your opinion. First you hyperbolically alleged they don’t exist, now you downplay their numbers and dismiss them as crazy.

          Are you still being hyperbolic, or is this just how you genuinely think?

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    If you’re lucky, it’ll follow along with Chrome and start sharing your browser history to advertisers, too!

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      Actually, since it’s based off Chromium, I’m pretty sure(don’t quote me on this) that those changes will go downstream into most Chrome-based browsers automatically, unless they take the time to remove it manually.

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        Brave at least claims to be an actual fork of chromium, they cherry pick upstream apparently. It’s still full of crypto bs, so choose your poison.

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        You’re probably right. IMO Chromium should be dropped wherever possible.

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          In the ideal world these Chromium-based browsers would rebase into Ungoogled or something of the sort. But ofc that’s never happening, so I’d suggest getting ahead and setting things up on Firefox.

          ATM I run Vivaldi and Firefox. Vivaldi is currently my main, but I also use FF quite often and will probably start try to switch away from Chromium in the future.

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    I’ve noticed that there’s a shift in UI design currently back to the 2000s style of round UI design, which eventually moved out of the way for nice straight crisp corners when we shifted from CRTs to LCDs which could render pixel perfect images at last.

    We never limited the viewport on a browser of course, that’s madness. But just look at XP’s bubbly design and interfaces of the time vs Win8/10’s very angular, clean crisp interface.

    I do hope we’re not descending back into an age of curves, I’m not a fan. But styles come and go every few decades, and maybe younger people today are ready to experience their “age of curves” for the first time?

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      It might just be down to nostalgia, especially when it comes to the early 2000s Windows XP style aesthetic. Just think about all the Vaporwave stuff (although that seems to be mostly late-90s-ish).

      I’m more of a Windows Aero fan, myself. Frutiger Aero in general has a very dystopian vibe for me but I’m a sucker for transparency.

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    I sort of understand rounding outside edges for aesthetics since there’s nothing lost and it might be easier as a target for resizing, but inside corners are just stupid. You’re arbitrarily cutting corners out of content for no good reason.