• NGC2346@sh.itjust.works
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    for ISPs it might happen For DNSs it could happen to some extent For VPNs, i highly doubt that.

    i2p truly is going to be the future.

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    Meta, X, and ChatGPT have all automated mass piracy of art, music, articles, and anything their genAI touches. Surely you mean to start there?

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      They want to lock down file sharing so no one else can use the data to build AI now that they have it

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        This. Totally this. Illicit recording of live broadcast radio performances of black jazz and blues artists in the 20’s and 30’s was how the major labels got their coffers large enough to start to change laws to protect them from others doing what they did to those original musicians.

        The copyright enforcement laws came into place once they’d established themselves by breaking copyrights.

        Utter cunts.

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      It was openai or meta that claimed because they didn’t seed the torrent that it wasn’t really piracy.

      So piracy only starts becoming bad when it takes the form of communism/socialism lol.

      The theft for a major corperation? Thats just good ol reliable capitalism.

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      If you tell a joke that you heard from somebody else to a friend you’re breaking the Copyright of the creator of the joke.

      If Copyright was strictly enforced it would constantly intrude in people’s lives and pretty much everybody would turn against it.

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      You don’t need to copyright it. Everything is copyrighted by default. You can decide to relax your copyright protection if you want, but the © symbol isn’t some magic spell. The sign kinda makes it look like it works the other way.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Actually they (Republicans) love the government, specifically because it pays them money to pass corporate protectionism bills. Remember, when Republicans take over and lock out the Democrats, then:
      ~ They no longer need Republican votes, so officials no longer have to serve their constituents
      ~ The Executive no longer needs Congress, so their money train is in jeopardy. ~ The businesses no longer need lobbyists, so their money train is in jeopardy.

      (Considering the level of incompetence we’ve seen in the federal government lately, it’s possible that our congresscritters haven’t fully thought this through.)

      We’re in the AI age now, which has shown us IP laws mean nothing when an entire major industry wants to violate them. This has always been true, as the studios and record labels pirated all the time, but it wasn’t as open and in the sunlight as it is with AI development. And Big AI is currently propping up the entire stock market.

      It turns out IP laws never meant anything anyway. Copyrights and patents were justified as temporary monopolies to promote science and the useful arts, specifically to produce a robust public domain.

      Except it does neither. Artists and scientists are rarely the copyright holders, and to get to own their own stuff, they need to be hot property (still making content) and have good lawyers. Also, the temporary monopolies have become permanent in practice. (much thanks to Walt Disney.) SCOTUS has not only refused to see the public as a stakeholder, but has taken things out of the public domain, so it has to be licensed again, in defiance of the Constitution of the United States.

      So now IP law is only a rent-seeking racket. Especially now since you need subscriptions to use your appliances.

      But as Sony has made clear for us in 2026, if purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t a copyright violation.

      This bill is a technology solution and has technology countermeasures. They can order ISPs DNSes and VPNs to block piracy sites, but those sites change all the time, and can do so faster than it takes to update the registries. Furthermore, when services don’t follow through, they will get more usage (and will make more money) so there’s a perverse incentive to slow walk the updates, and not talk to whoever makes the lists.

      We learned this a long time ago when the biggest selling point of ISPs was free porn and free movies.

      Like encryption with backdoors for law enforcement, there’s no way to nerd harder to make it work.

      It also depends on foreign service offerings cooperating with US law. Unless we build the Great Firewall of the US (which, I’m sure, is on the table), US offerings will be obligated to follow the law while foreign ones do not, which will run against the interests of local businesses.

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        Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protectes [sic] but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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    While trump uses any fucking song he wants to for his two-fisted entropy dance.

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    Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff. These tens of billions they talk about don’t exist.

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      Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff

      How DARE you!

      My piracy is morally; not financially driven

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        Mine is accessibility driven.

        Oh, wanted to watch that series from last year to end? Too bad, it’s gone now.

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          My wife and I have a game we play sometimes. We pick a title, and then we have a sort of race: can we find a way to watch something the “right” way before we are able to torrent it?

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        Mine’s mostly financial, my moral objection is to streaming shows where, even if you have money, you can’t buy the show on DVD.

        Though I wonder if streaming legally and ripping illegally would be the next viable option. Netflix’s 720p streams are largely unprotected.

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        If you’re using a semi colon, you need to make sure it’s a stand-alone sentence on both sides.

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          If you’re using standalone as an adjective, you need to make sure it’s hyphenated or a single word.

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          You might be the only person in the country that knows how to use semi colons then. I thought it was just when you are already breaking apart a sentence in commas and want a list within one of those comma breaks.

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            If you mean like when you’re creating a list of items that already contain commas, such as New York, NY; Boston, MA; and Sacramento, CA, then that is also a valid use of semicolons.

            My error was writing my sentence with a valid semicolon, then editing the sentence structure without replacing the semicolon with a comma before posting.

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        We standing on principal over here. I’ll continue supporting indie devs and small projects but mega corp has too much and won’t be getting anything from me.

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      I would be surprised if most US politicians are capable of understanding the concept of duplicating files on a computer

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        You are correct. It’s like expecting car salesmen to be able to understand how to do brain surgery.

        Most politicians are failed lawyers. And if they are too incompetent or corrupt to be representing people or entities in court, they sure are hell shouldn’t be making calls about anything in society or in the political realm. And that obviously includes technology.

        Remember when late Alaska Senator Ted Stevens described (with great confidence) that the Internet “is like a series of tubes”? Classic example of their wider incompetence right there.

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      You think they care about things like facts, or logic? No. This is, and always has been about control.

      Even the business side of things know piracy doesn’t actually hurt business, it helps it. They’ve conducted studies on this since 2004. They found that the vast majority of pirates are actually the biggest spenders. They found more often than not a pirate will download a movie, or an album or a game, or whatever. Then within a month buy that same thing they just pirated.

      Thats the reason you used to see these record labels try to stop piracy back in the days of kazaa and napster, and limewire. There used to be lawsuits where they’d sue some household for 20 million dollars. Knowing they don’t have it. Well what ended up happening is they ended up suing this elderly man who had no idea what limewire was. He didn’t know how to use a computer. And the only one who used the computer was the 8 year old boy, who now had to live with his grandpa, because both his parents were killed by a drunk driver. Now this record label was trying to put his grandfather 20 million in debt. For someone who had no idea who the black eyed peas. When they kept asking him about it, he asked why they kept asking him about soup if this was about music theft.

      As the case went on, it was revealed that between his parents, and other family members, he had a cd collection, including the albums accused of stealing, worth over $5,000 worth of cds.

      The whole thing turned the public against record labels, and painted them as the bad guys for trying to ruin peoples lives over music. To this day I haven’t heard of another time they tried that tactic.

      And the republicans know this.

      You have to remember one thing. The cruelty is the point. It doesn’t need to make sense. It just needs to punish their enemies. And at times even punish their own base. I saw a story last night where a guy who voted for trump was complaining that insulin used to be $6, and now it’s $80 under trumps new plan. And he said “I didn’t think it would happen to ME!”

      And thats where we are right now. Just leaving the fuck around stage. Now entering the find out portion of our journey.

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      Mine is mostly convenience. I’m not going to try to figure out which of a dozen streaming sites have a show or movie that I want to watch, and manage all those subscriptions. I could probably figure out a way to afford them, but my time is more valuable.

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    Wait until critizism of The Glorious Party and Our Beloved Supreme Leader is considered “piracy”.

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      We got a DNS-based censorship law in Denmark ages ago. It was strictly for blocking child pornography. Today the list also includes: Unlicensed gambling sites, piracy, as well as a handful of sites that “doesn’t contain CSAM or other obviously illegal content” (old source, but nothing has really changed except probably the amount of websites on the list)

      Censorship will never be limited to what it was first set in motion for. It is just too powerful and it is too tempting to not expand it to cover other “nuisances” a government or its lobbyists might have. If the barrier of entry is just adding a new string to a list, they’re gonna add that string to the list.

      And if you want to circumvent it you just point your DNS to Quad9, Cloudflare, Google, or any of the DNS services that doesn’t implement the filter (including at least one Danish DNS service), so in essence it is pretty useless for the target groups it’s meant for.

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        Indeed. It starts with implementing the means, arguing with CSAM, terrorism, foreign espionage, or whatever cow is on the main street, and once it is running, it will be abused, both by broadly extending the reach (‘It was initially meant to fight terrorism, but is now used to cover copyright and parking violations.’), and illegal abuse by users (‘Police officer tracks his ex through Flock cameras’).

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    Thank GOD! ONLY Billionaires should be Allowed to Pirate EVERYTHING EVER MADE!

    -Republicans!

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    Piracy keeps the poors occupied and busy so they don’t riot. There’s no blood left to squeeze from that rock, they’re not going to buy streaming. Games are in decline as systems die of go outdated, and corporate erodes the quality of development.

    They’re idiots if they push this bill in earnest.

    Look what happened the last time people had too much time on their hands (Covid). And everyone has a lot more to pissed about, now.

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      Your last paragraph crossed my mind recently as the oil prices really start to spiral out of control. There were so many protests bordering on riots because people were stuck at home due to covid - now we’re already hearing news that truckers are starting to sit idle instead of driving at a loss.

      Imagine how much free time and how much anger everyone will have when the economy grinds to a halt from product shortages all over the country.

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        I’d love to think people would’ve protested racism and gross police incompetencies ending in death regardless, but it’s highly unlikely.

        Even the storming of the Bastille had to wait for nice weather.

        Locking away the poors’ access to distraction could very well be that “nice weather”.

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          Both of those things were protested when George Floyd was murdered. But only so much can be accomplished through protesting.

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            Right but sometimes conditions have to be right for it is my point. And the riots/orotests (depending) were more intense and publicized than prior. Not sure the results would’ve been the same in January. People like to think better of themselves, but background human behavior variables guide things too. Outside in January? Probably not unless your MN, WI, or MI. (There a culture of pride in weathering cold weather in the upper Midwest that doesn’t reallly sway them.) April though? Yes please, for most.

            Getting to this point, doing it on scheduled work days, is step one. The energy has to be there before anything else can ignite.

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              Agreed, I think it was a perfect storm of a truly egregious murder and a population who had a uniquely unusual amount of free time to do something about it

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          I didn’t hear about a strike, I just heard there were a few parking their trucks as it didn’t make sense to work just to pay for fuel

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          I’ve heard plenty of times in the past that truckers will strike over this or that, and I’d like to actually see it happen. It would stop everything in three days or so.

          Usually what happens is we get a couple of videos of truckers going slow and blocking the highway, but not much else.