• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 hours ago

    God I fucking hate that Newsom is probably going to “win” (read: be anointed as The Guy by the neoliberal consultants the DNC brain trust likes to hire) in the primary

    On the flip side, who even knows if we’ll have an election in 2028

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    If Newsom is our best hope then we are fucked. The guy thinks if the throws enough minorities under the bus the rest of the country will forget he is a Democrat from California.

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      I’ve been a die-hard “blue no matter who” my entire life, but man… I’m tired, boss.

      If Gaven “have we tried killing all the homeless?” Newsom gets the nomination, I probably just won’t vote at all. Fuck.

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    i’ve seen some people claim Vance can’t win, and as a millennial in their 30s i hope to never see that uttered again. how are you so sure after we elected Trump the first time? how are you so sure after we elected Trump a second time? his initial run was disbelieved by everyone. have you forgotten?

    nothing is impossible anymore on the Right. nobody is unelectable due to bad PR and poor optics. they are unelectable because they aren’t swearing allegiance to Trump.

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      Caesar’s Legion is already here and in charge, might as well join with the Khans

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    Registered voters in California were asked to make their early picks for potential candidates in the 2028 presidential election, as well as provide feedback on other issues relevant to their priorities for the state.

    They asked people in Cali who they thought would run…

    Newsome isn’t a frontrunner, and only the wealthy want him as a candidate.

    He’s just definitely going to run

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    Ah yes “early frontrunners” who in the entite history of polling have never actually gotten anywhere close to clinching the nomination of their party. Except maybe Trump.

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    Anyone who was peddling the whole “Vance doesn’t have the charisma” charade is lying to themselves. It was never about charisma. The Republicans lined up this way behind Dubya as well and smeared Kerry, a veteran with actual service history, while backing Bush who failed to even finish his term as an Air National Guardsman and probably skipped his physical because he was busy snorting cocaine off a hookers ass.

    It has never been about charisma, and that should be fucking evident because Trump has none. Bush did the same thing that Trump did: He used the current political climate to allow them to find someone to pin the idea of Otherness on. Post 9/11 it was anyone who was even vaguely Islamic. The followers got to hate freely, and they loved it. They are being given the same permission all over again, to hate freely.

    Vance will give them that same permission to hate. That’s all it was ever about.

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      Dubya had serious rizz. Stupid rizz, but that was like his whole thing. There was a whole discourse around “he’s the sort of guy you’d want to grab a beer with”. People found Bush much more charismatic than Kerry on the whole.

      Also, say what you want about trump, but charisma is like the one thing he has. It’s super grating to me, but a lot of people find his whole schtick very magnetic.

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        I say this as someone who fucking loathed George W. Bush: John Kerry had even less charisma. I couldn’t fucking believe that somehow primary voters decided they wanted John Kerry when John Edwards, Howard Dean, and Wesley Clark were potential alternatives. John Kerry had less charisma than a pile of mildewy laundry.

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        Pretty sure I heard Bush, before running, presented as well spoken and intelligent. Somewhere along the way he was told that would be off-putting to many voters and to dial it back a bit.

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          Yeah there were old vids of him doing debates, IIRC and he was rather sharp and they were contrasted with the way he came off during his two terms, and he seemed…less sharp, let’s say.

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      Can’t say I agree. People are feeling the squeeze from the system, and Trump has the charisma to make people think he wants them to be as rich as he is, and distract from everything he does to make that squeeze even bigger. If you don’t have the right personality to sell your idea, it’s not going to get anywhere. Vance could be ideologically similar to Bernie Sanders, but if he pitches it with his “cinnamon rolls, whatever makes sense” energy I might be looking the other way. Hell, Trump even got some Bernie voters!