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    2 months ago

    I feel bad for AOC. She has to work with people daily that actively and vocally wish her harm and who have a rabid cult as followers. She honestly has a lot of guts to do what she does and say what she says. She is one of the few in Congress who actually deserve to be there.

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      Something tells me it was genuinely scarier being a bartender in the Bronx as a young, conventionally attractive woman.

      But yeah, she’s got some stones.

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        I mean… her story about what happened on J6 is frankly pretty fucking harrowing. Don’t get me wrong - being a Bronx bartender as a young, attractive woman must be pretty damn sketchy at times, but as a singular event, especially after becoming an extremely well known and (depending on political affiliation) adored/reviled politician, I daresay this might take the cake.

        And I don’t mean to diminish her past experience of assault by saying that either. All I mean is that a relatively sudden, unexpected assault, while traumatic, has a much different mental context than knowing “there’s a group of people who have HATED me for my entire term, and they’ve broken in, and the don’t just want to relish in their power over me if they catch me, but they will want to torment me as long as possible, and they will definitely kill me, and it won’t be quick”.

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            Current.

            As the bartender, she had cut-off and 86 authority. Act sideways with a bartender, find another place to drink. But when the creeps are your “peers” I think it’s tougher to navigate.

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        Me too. She’s like a Bernie 2.0. She deserves a lot of respect for standing up for what’s right.

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            I predict that for 2028, the DNC will insist that we run a compromise ticket. For one, AOC is a little to young, so she should be the VP pick. To balance the ticket, they’ll want someone who is older and more conservative to run for the main slot. And why not someone who has actually run before, and has some experience on the presidential campaign trail?

            That’s why in 2028, the centrists at the DNC will give us Duke-Occasio Cortez ticket! For the VP, we’ll have AOC, and for the front runner, we’ll have 1988 Democratic presidential primary candidate David Duke.

            I’m sure Chuck Schumer will endorse Duke saying, “sure we may lose some progressives. But for every progressive voter we lose in Philadelphia, we’ll gain two overt white supremacist voters in the Philadelphia suburbs!”

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                I don’t know literally anything about Waltz but is he that progressive? This is the “Israel has a right to expand its borders” guy so that’s unexpected.

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                  Doesn’t really matter. The country wasn’t at the point where it would have voted for a woman. The US is still extremely misogynistic, as seen by a guy who takes notes from Saudi Arabia winning the popular vote.

                  Waltz has a personality that a great many people respond to well, and he’s an old white dude. That seems to be the winning ticket these days.

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                    I won’t speak to his personality because again I don’t know anything about him, but I don’t think being a woman had much to do with Harris losing. If she was a good candidate she’d have won because her opponent was Trump; and if a man with the same positions and attitude had run they’d have lost for the same reasons she lost.

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              It would be funnier if he hadn’t flipped parties after that and ran again as a Republican in 1992.

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              or just hear me out here, Jimmy Carter is still alive. when trump runs in 2028, that ammendment goes out the window, so, we can, you know, run him, too, right?

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                  Perfect….

                  (For the record, I don’t know if Carter was a good president. I think he got a bad break with the contra affair, and he did good elsewhere. But I will say this: he’s a spectacular expresident)

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            That’s only for presidential election (and even then it’s a debatable position); there’s definitely a space for established independent senators and representatives. See: Bernie.