Summary
Iranian pop star Amir Hossein Maghsoudloo, known as Tataloo, has been sentenced to death for blasphemy after the supreme court overturned a prior five-year prison sentence.
Tataloo, who had been living in Istanbul since 2018, was extradited to Iran in 2023 and has since been detained.
He also faces charges of promoting “prostitution” and spreading “propaganda” against the Islamic Republic.
The verdict is not final and can still be appealed.
Once a figure courted by conservatives, Tataloo gained fame for his controversial music and tattoos.
Another Iranian rapper, Toomaj, was given a death sentence in 2024 that was overturned. I think he is still in jail though.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/14/middleeast/iran-dissident-rapper-toomaj-salehi-intl-latam/index.html
Hopefully they both can see freedom soon.
I misread that as “Italian” and it felt a bit weird.
Thought it was someone who snaps their spaghetti before cooking it.
Make them shorter and no snapping needed.
Get a larger pan / have some patience and mix them.
It doesn’t really matter if 30 seconds one end is in the water and the other isn’t while you’re gently bending them into the pot.
Or, get one of these.
(Yes yes, I should clean my kitchen.)
Drop them in and the shape makes them swirl and no mixing needed when it’s a roiling boil. I do often see that they separate well but after that, no need.
Use a longer pot
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Yay, slurs.
We should kill the transgressor to preserve honor.
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By all accounts it is not:
1: religion is not a sentient being, so it can’t be impaired intellectually 2:religion is hardly developing later than desired or expected as it was with us for our entire history 3: religion is not socially inappropriate in almost every society, and it is by no means “foolish”, and if you wanr to say otherwise it is up to you to prove it is.
You just want an excuse the shove an ableist slur in our faces. Shut the fuck up.
Before retard was a slur, it was a medically diagnosed term, and before that, imbecile, moron and idiot were medically diagnosed terms. Now, they’re commonplace terms for stupid.
Kids these days are calling each other autistic, and nobody bats an eye.
When I use the word retarded, I don’t even associate it with people with disabilities like down syndrome, it’s strictly used as a synonym for “really stupid”, excluding people with learning disabilities.
I think by claiming it’s an offensive term, the association between the word and people with learning disabilities is strengthened. I think it will inevitably roll around to being acceptable again, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it (provided you aren’t explicitly using it as a slur towards someone with a learning disability).
Funny anecdote: many years ago my brother in law used to work with a organization for people with down syndrome, and whenever they had a trip planned, they would take the minivan together, and would crank “Let’s get retarded”.
They knew what the word meant, in all its connotations, but loved the song. They took power over it by calling each other retards, and even the supervisor would tell them to stop being retarded, and they would piss themselves (figuratively) laughing whenever it happened.
Retarded was, and still is, used as an insult for those who are severally developmentally disabled. Those who are literally unable to defend themselves. The people most impacted by this have no ability to take the power back for themselves. You suggest they knew what it meant, but quite frankly I doubt, also having been involved with those with down syndrome. They might have had an idea, but it’s unlikely they all understood all the depths and nuances. And regardless of just down syndrome, there are those with more severe cognitive dysfunction, potentially nonverbal, that literally have no way have reclaiming the word. I don’t think it will become increasingly acceptable, I think it will become increasingly unacceptable.
The other terms you used, while they used to be medical terms, weren’t use in the same connotation to target developmentally disabled individuals. That’s the difference.
I think you’re in conflict with Americans on this one. Sarah Palin, the Vice Presidential candidate in 2008 who was remarkably stupid, had a mentally retarded child and really encouraged people to stop using retarded as an insult. Ironically her fame was partly derived from opposing things like this.
Using the r slur as a way to imply someone or something is stupid is associating the people who actually experience ableism with stupidity, just like calling a straight man who likes cooking the f slur would be homophobic, not because you’re insulting a gay man, but because you’re using a term for gayness as an insult.
It isn’t that hard to understand, so just stop. That is a slur and I don’t want to be reminded of ableism everyfuckingwhere I go.
Calm down. Everyone knows Websters changed the definition of faggot to refer to loud and obnoxious Harley-Davidson riders in 2009.
That’s like saying “black people can use the N-word (as an in-group term), so I can too (as an insult)”.
You really don’t see the difference?
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blasphemy is the ultimate victimless crime
Blasphemy!
see? you’re fine!
Your blasphemy turned me into a newt
no job, no bills, just newt; enjoy!
But you got better?
Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah!
That only works for beetlejuice…wait a minute, if you rearrange the letters in “beetlejuice” you get “Beltted Jettis!” Which, if you squint real hard is approximately Jehovah… Just swap the B for a J, the L for an h, obviously Tees look like O’s. You get the idea.
Conservatives had their feelings hurt, so death is an option.
Only a couple of powerful monied people will pretend there is a victim. And then there is, usually the blasphemer.
Like punching someone in the dark
Like punching an imaginary friend in the dark.
If God (or Allah if you prefer that name) is so angry about blasphemy, why does He risk letting fallible humans take care of the problem?
Simply cause the blasphemer to drop dead. Then the faithful can clean up the aftermath if they wish to appear faithful, because it is less important how that is handled.
Is this comment blasphemous? We’ll see if I drop dead.
Jehovah! Jehovah!
How can it be worse?!
Are you still alive?
I think so. Maybe I’m now a delusional and surprisingly active corpse.
They can’t because it’s not believers vs unbelievers, the clergy educated in biblical scholarship know their position is indefensible that’s why they enforce blasphemy laws and murder apostates. Because in the light of transparency, historical context, and evidence none of the religions of Abraham are reasonable to believe.
They know it’s made up, but they can’t stop because they’ve convinced themselves it’s for the greater good to defend the ‘noble lie’.
Or they are power hungry aholes, and/or working for power hungry aholes.
that would be awesome, assuming they’re all evil, but destroys the principle of faith
I’m pretty sure that the ruse, if there is one, must be impossible to prove
Turkey extradites to Iran? That seems like something that wouldn’t help join the EU.
Edit: I should specify that I’m being somewhat sarcastic. My comment is technically true but in fact this extradition policy is largely irrelevant to real-world diplomacy.
yeah I was surprised by that too, but I’m a dumb dumb, so 🤷
Pretty sure Turkey has given up on ever joining the EU years ago.
Turkey hasn’t wanted to join the EU for decades.
After they were refused repeatedly and the last attempt really highlighted how common racism is in the EU I cannot blame them for not wanting to join anymore.
I’d say that Turkey has stopped seriously trying to join the EU, but that’s because I don’t know what they want or don’t.
My comment was intended to sound cynical, but I totally failed to actually make it sound that way. (I edited it just now in an attempt to fix that.) Europe’s relationship with Turkey is dominated by geopolitical and economic concerns, not moral ones.
Iran is such a dogshit country. Russia too.
And special mention to Turkey for extraditing the artist to Iran over such bullshit.
Are you from that country that just voted in a convicted felon as their next president?
If they were, what would it change? They aren’t somehow personally resposible for it, and having a shitty government yourself doesn’t mean you can’t criticise other shitty governments.
Reverse whataboutism detected!
Citizens of dog shit countries are the most qualified to talk about others being dog shit.
Which country is not a dogshit country today?
I am not. Are you?
Nope. Pretty funny that you’re embarrassed enough to lie about it though lol
https://lemmy.one/comment/15056467
Caught in 4k lol
It’s like, crazy that people can lie like that on the internet like that. Can you imagine the shame? I can’t, because I don’t care.
Also, I live somewhere else that allows you to own guns u silly ass, USA is not the only country with gun ownership.
There are a number of places in the world that have legal systems that are totally controlled by the state. If you go to those places you are taking large chances as you don’t know how much you figure in that government’s agenda at that moment.
Every single functional nation is in control of the legal system. If they are not the state is failing or has failed.
All legal systems are controlled by the state. Uncontrolled systems are called vigilantism.
Categorise Xeer then, please.
In some the police and judiciary are extension on the executive government where in others they are the third branch and independent.
All branches of government are part of the state.
Not all countries have the courts as a branch of the government.
Sweden is an example of such a country where the judicial system is independent from the government.
I think the guy you answered was a bit clumsy in their wording of it as a “third branch”, I think they mean “third” as you would a “third party”.
