and fuck the UK goverment

  • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
    28·
    2 days ago

    If any service requires me to send a photo of myself to use it, I ain’t using it.

    EDIT: lol wut, Facebook and YouTube want photo ID now?? I must be old enough to have missed out. My comment stands though, if I wasn’t already a member on either of those I guess I wouldn’t become one!

    • viking@infosec.pubEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      It’s a UK law, you either comply or get banned. Obviously everybody now has a VPN subscription.

      • AlteredEgo@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Italy made VPNs practically illegal. The UK might soon follow. And surfing the web with a VPN is a painful torrent of capchas. And email addresses you can get without revealing your phone number to identify yourself are becoming sparse too.

        If you’d want to actually address the issue (insofar unsupervised teenagers watching porn is an issue) you’d need something like a U2F security key that can be used as anonymous age verification and be bought anonymously in a physical shop for cash, just by showing your ID to a clerk (without your details being stored). Keys being stolen or misused could then also be flagged in a public database.

        • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          6·
          2 days ago

          I think it’s better to reject these sites rather than work around it. Especially for major platforms. Make it hurt financially.

          • AlteredEgo@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Many have done that for decades, but the tend remains that the internet is getting less and less free.

        • enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          My VPN for about 7-8 years is run by Italian hacktivists (airvpn, it’s a nonprofit, they’re good people), I haven’t heard about this ban. Perhaps it only applies to Italian citizens using VPNs, not to Italians running VPNs. Wait, that doesn’t make sense… I’ll check out their newsfeed.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    8·
    2 days ago

    It is fucking mental that an industry plagued by data harvesting is being asked to harvest more data.

    Anyway, I’m now in Belgium according to my VPN.

  • archchan@lemmy.mlEnglish
    15·
    3 days ago

    Age verification is insane in it’s entirety and no payment processor, corpo, government, or think-tank has any right to enforce their puritanical views on sex and Orwellian techno-fascist policies on everyone.

  • LSNLDN@slrpnk.netEnglish
    10·
    3 days ago

    Yeah I hate this. Glad I’m not using it much anymore anyway but damnnnn. I’m convinced they’re rolling this out under the guise of child safety but with the profit motive of data harvesting for their donors

  • markovs_gun@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    3 days ago

    What I don’t understand is that there are ways to prevent kids from looking at porn that don’t rely on crazy shit like this, even if they do involve some government action. Having to send a picture of your face to a porn provider to view porn is the dumbest possible way to fix this. I suspect the real reason for all of this is people want to effectively ban porn altogether and dumb fucks are letting them.

    • Psythik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      15·
      3 days ago

      Having to upload your ID anywhere is already sketchy as-is, let alone a porn site. What ever happened to the days of “never use your real name on the internet”? Computer class teachers would drill that into students’ heads all the way through K-12.

      When Facebook came along, I thought people were insane for posting things under their full name with their photo attached to it. I thought MySpace was asking for too much personal info as-is! Fast forward ~20 years, and not only are you expected to provide your real identity on several websites, some American states even require it now!

      Honestly blows my mind how willingly we gave up our online anonymity without even the slightest bit of pushback. We all just accept it as normal now.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        FB has a very aggressive data mining verification for making an account, they don’t even let you use some obscure emails to registet

    • Quokka@mastodon.au
      4·
      3 days ago

      @markovs_gun @Abraxas Kids are being banned from all social media here in Australia soon. Including, it seems, YouTube lol.
      Expensive and completely unworkable. Reminds me I must spin up that Mastodon instance for my kids and their mates :mastodondance:
      It’s absolutely not about making sure everyone signs up to DigitalID.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      It’s going to be interesting to see if, after Britons become accustomed to letting websites take pictures of their identity documents, whether there will be interesting fraud attempts made on the British public from other websites who claim that they are conforming to British law.

  • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
    2004·
    4 days ago

    That is, I believe, a British law that they’re following for users that appear to be in the UK. Not like they’re going to just disregard the law.

    kagis

    Yeah, the Online Safety Act 2023.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023

    The Online Safety Act 2023[1][2][3] (c. 50) is an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to regulate online content. Designed to protect children and adults online, it passed on 26 October 2023 and gives the relevant Secretary of State the power, subject to parliamentary approval, to designate and suppress or record a wide range of online content that is illegal or deemed “harmful” to children.[4][5]

    The act creates a new duty of care for online platforms, requiring them to take action against illegal content, or legal content that could be “harmful” to children where children are likely to access it. Platforms failing this duty would be liable to fines of up to £18 million or 10% of their annual turnover, whichever is higher. It also empowers Ofcom to block access to particular websites.

    So that’s what they’ll be aiming to do.

    Some websites and apps stated they would introduce age verification for users in response to a 25 July 2025 deadline set by Ofcom.[47] These include pornographic websites,[48] but also the social networks Bluesky and Reddit.[49][50]

    Probably should be mostly irritated with Parliament.

    I expect that using a VPN that terminates in another country will avoid it, though I bet that then you can’t do things like buy Reddit Gold, if that’s still a thing.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1622·
      4 days ago

      I’d add that if you pick Ireland as the VPN exit country, it will have notable benefits:

      • Sites that pick language based on IP will probably do English.

      • It probably won’t add much latency.

      • Ireland isn’t too bonkers and hopefully won’t have any large collection of online laws of their own that become an irritant.

      • Because Ireland has a considerably smaller population than the UK, if people in the UK do this at scale for pornography, it will make the Irish statistically look like absolutely indefatigable horndogs, which I think will be pretty funny on visualizations.

    • lividweasel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      4 days ago

      If you don’t mind my hijacking, I’ve seen the term “kagis” used a number of times on Lemmy, possibly only by you but I think also others. Based on the usage, I assumed it was a Latin word to indicate some sort of transition or side-bar, but it seems to just translate to “you are”, which doesn’t make sense in context. Can I ask what it means?

      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        26·
        4 days ago

        Kagi is a new-ish search engine that is popular among Lemmy users. Those users are trying to get it to catch on, and have started using kagi as a verb, the same way people say “let me google that really quick.”

        It honestly feels a lot like when Microsoft was trying to get Bing and their phone OS to take off, and started slipping product placement into popular TV shows. There was a brief time period in American TV, where characters had the disgusting line of “Bing it!” Usually while showing the Bing home page on a Microsoft Phone. It was just blatant ham-fisted cringey product placement.

        • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.caEnglish
          153·
          4 days ago

          Yeah I’ve noticed this user basically inserts a “kagis” into like 2/3 of their comments, it always slightly irks me because it makes me feel like I’m getting advertised at. I’ve never felt the need to proclaim which search engine(s) I’ve used to research any particular comment on Lemmy, and I find it odd that the one person who does so regularly is doing it for a paid service.

          Apart from that, their comments are usually pretty good, so I’m not accusing them of shilling or anything, but I find it super peculiar.

      • Maven (famous)@lemmy.zipEnglish
        25·
        4 days ago

        There’s a search engine named Kagi. It’s basically the equivalent of “googles” but for a different search engine.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      112·
      3 days ago

      They have to comply with local laws. (Fuck them anyway but for entirely different reasons, at least in this case they’re following the law.)

      Who do we throw stones at boo mercilessly? Conservatism broadly, the kink-cult that makes everything about sex and denying sex while having the weirdest, worst sex behind the scenes. Making people scared of anything remotely sexual while also championing violence and hate.

      In the US, our pedo-in-chief started doing this too and you need to register your ID with the state to get into pornhub and other adult sites in some states. This is a spreading problem that people are too ashamed to push back on.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        3 days ago

        Dude I was recently visiting Florida. I totally forgot the fascist bullshit laws about porn there, was gobsmacked I couldn’t view pornhub. 5 minutes and a free vpn on my phone and I was happily watching my preferred smut.

        It’s so stupid how pointless the laws are, like it’s dumb easy to circumvent them.

        Just some real bullshit waste of time. Plus a waste of money for companies that try to comply with the Florida law. Pornhub just decided if you’re in Florida you can’t even use pornhub because they didn’t want to spend the money and time to comply with the stupid ass backwards law.

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          3 days ago

          they didn’t want to spend the money and time to comply with the stupid ass backwards law.

          They didn’t want the liability and connection to a government database that will probably start looking for people who are into like, cuckolding or something, since that seems to be what the right is absolutely obsessed with.

        • ByteOnBikes@discuss.onlineEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          Sometimes my VPN kicks me to one of those backwards ass states and I also get surprised by them. Swap states and I’m in.

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
    122·
    3 days ago

    The world and the internet are so low on trust, I kind of wish there was some entity we trusted.

    Some website where you could upload a photo, and people would actually know for sure that all the site is going to do is compare the photo to an ID, verify you’re over a certain age, and send a simple boolean “Yes” to the website that wanted to know if you were over-age. Or, to somehow know that your account is human and not a duplicate.

    We could do a lot with that, but as it stands, no person or entity can ever really be trusted with that kind of data; I think most wouldn’t even trust the same governments that issue those IDs.

    • eletes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      92·
      3 days ago

      It’s simple, librarians or even gas station clerks look at your license and they give you a code that you can use idk 10 times for account signups.

      No scanning or tracking of who is requesting. Just make it an ID check like buying cigarettes

          • dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            22·
            2 days ago

            No, millennials’ and zoomers’ inability to actually parent their crotch goblins is why we can’t have nice things.

            They can’t say no to their kids so they have to bitch and moan at the companies to do it for them, which results in adults getting fucked over.

    • Evotech@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      The government already knows who you are! No need for a third party

      Just give you a fucking oauth login and have websites use that for age checks.

    • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      some entity we trusted.

      We can trust each other, just takes a little chemical and/or psychological manipulation.

  • sylver_dragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    141·
    3 days ago

    Try using old.reddit.com. Literally just replace www with old, or add old in front of reddit.com. This should take you to a version of reddit’s interface which isn’t complete trash and it usually also allows you to bypass the need to login for NSFW content.