• Mandy@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    The EU already doesn’t like what google and the like are doing, maybe this gives them proper ammo

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    Users are testing the impact of not using Google.

    Spoiler: non-LLM enshittified search engines return reliable results and usually are not censored.

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    Somebody help get my ideas straight on this one, please.

    To my knowledge, Bing and Google search engine are the default options available out there, to the point other search services relay service from those, give or take a few tweaks (DuckDuckGo, Startpage, etc).

    Now lets remove those from the picture and what is left?

    I read a post yesterday announcing Ecosia amd Qwant were joining efforts to build a fully european search engine (hopefully, yes, but I’m not holding my breath on it). Maybe that is an option. But what else?

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    Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

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      This is the opposite of what you think it is.

      Google says it’s running the “time-limited” test because EU regulators and publishers “have asked for additional data about the effect of news content in Search.” The company says it will continue to show results from websites and news publishers located outside the EU, and it will resume showing results from EU news publishers once the test ends.

      This is the EU testing what it would be like if they ditched Google, not Google testing what it would be like without the EU. The test also doesn’t impact the US.

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      My brother in Lemmy, this is what stopping Big Tech looks like.

      Europe made laws that say that Google and others need to pay if they want to link to EU publishers. Well, maybe the price they are asking is not worth it.

      You’re right about the firewall energy, but that’s simply how these laws work. The point of copyright, as well as age verification and other such laws, is to control who may access certain information.

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      Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

      This is one of the rare occasions I’m siding with Google. The news outlets are claiming that they should be paid money for those result snippets. It’s not because I’m caring for Google so much but because that stance hurts small search engines.

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        Unless I’ve misunderstood the law, it doesn’t hurt small engines, because small search engines don’t have to pay.

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        EU: You have to pay to show our news.

        Google: Ok. We won’t show your news.

        EU: Pikachu face

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          But, is this bad? Google makes a crap-ton of revenue compared to publishers who are now struggling with AI content competition. They need revenue to pay journalists.

          Hard to define the good guys on this one.

          Note: It’s also a misrepresentation. The EU asked Google to do this.

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          That’s what basically happened in Germany like 10, 15 years ago when the first publisher had that idea. Its news stories would still show up in search results but only the headline, not that text snippet and no thumbnail image. These results were less attractive to users, so traffic from Google to those web sites crashed down by like 80, 90 percent.

          In the end the publishers gave Google a free license to reproduce text snippets and thumbnails. The tightened copyright law provision wasn’t repealed. Small search engines without leverage still (AFAIK to this day) have to pay.

          So Google pays nothing, publishers earn nothing, upstart search engines can’t afford the fees, and so Google leaves even more in power because of a law not even they wanted.

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        Not wanting to appear on Google is how we’re going to get EVEN more dailymail type shit.

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      Europe asked Google to do this so they can monitor what kind of influence Google has.

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      I mean, they’ve done this when places charge them money to index the news articles there.

      It hardly seems reasonable to both mandate that they index a given piece of news media and that they pay a fee to do so.

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      A US news echo chamber at the whims of whatever they think will appease trump is going to be horrifying…