• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    3 months ago

    ‘richest country in the world’; cant afford to help humans at their doorstep

    uh huh.

    these conservatives are either malicious, ignorant or both. its weird talking to them. so many are so casual about the cruelty they support

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      It seems clear to me that it’s both and the cruelty is the point. Remember this lady?

      “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

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      3 months ago

      Well no country could afford to take in everyone north of the darian gap. Its just too many people.

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        3 months ago

        There’s days to alleviate the pressures that are pushing these people North. Like but funding right wing death squads or not putting sanctions on countries that elect the ‘wrong leader’.

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        3 months ago

        We are the richest country in the history of the world and we have loads of empty space. We could double our population and still be fine.

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        3 months ago

        Yes, yes they should. Immigration is a boogeyman used to blame other people for issues that aren’t their fault.

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            3 months ago

            Nobody said anything about taxes.

            We should make it easier for immigrants to pay tax regardless of status, otherwise we lose out on the tax revenue and create black markets and crime.

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                3 months ago

                Yeah, sometimes they go to great lengths to forge documents and pay taxes under somebody else’s name.

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                    3 months ago

                    Haha,okay hon. You asked a simple question, I answered. Now you’re reading other shit into it? Don’t be an idiot.

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                    3 months ago

                    According to you they dont pay taxes? Would be good to have a source for that claim, because taxes are paid directly or indirectly in most things done in your daily life ie, having a car, having a house, buying foods or services. So, if your problem is that despite paying taxes they are stressing too much the house supply and government funded services you will be in favour of kicking out of the country people that is legal but have too many kids? I dont think many white christian families are going to like that.

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                I just cant help but laugh at your questions, does your country have vat or not? Do people not pay vat in products and services? for having a car? for having a house? from being paid a salary? If your argument is that as they are illegal they have are being paid in b im sure most of them will be happy to be legalized and pay all the taxes ;)

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                    3 months ago

                    Do you think illegal immigrants pay taxes?

                    But you were implying illegal immigrants didnt pay taxes, do you understand what you write before sending your messages or are you just too much into a racist outrage to care.

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            3 months ago

            When did I say anything about taxes? Not even going to comment on it bcz a number of other people have already made you look dumb.

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            It’s the boogeyman. It’s like seeing the temperature rise and blaming the sun or w/e. Putting the blame on the wrong thing. Like sure there should be immigration restrictions of some kind but putting the blame on immigrants is stupid and the people who eat it up the morons.

            The businesses are usually right leaning and support this view, yet the have no problem hiring illegal immigrants. They love to hire people at lowest wage.

            Here is an image that depicts it.

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            Deportations is also the wrong solution. People like it, but that’s stupid. People will just come back to the same employer or find someone else. It’s a side effect of capitalism.

            You want to fix it, tax the business that hire illegal immigrants. Hell pay these illegal immigrants for ranting out their employeer. I guarantee you will have less illegal immigrants.

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        First, what’s the economic cost here? Immigration is not a net negative overall. Why spend trillions of dollars burning money to police one of the worlds largest borders other than to blow all of society’s resources on an impossibly stupid and unproductive task?

        The irrational desire to punish children for misdemeanor crimes of parents should be seen as what it is: a mental disorder.