• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    I am as enthusiastic about replacing Biden as the nominee as anyone for so many reasons. But could the press devote just a portion of the attention currently covering the ‘oh look, Joe farted!’ beat to dissecting the pathologically misleading, violent and un-American rhetoric broadcasting at full volume from nearly every Republican party orifice every day? Like, the stakes are really high here. If not for the sake of our democracy, then just cover their fascism from a pure self-preservation point of view. And when I say ‘self preservation’, I don’t just mean preserving their press careers (which are absolutely in danger if authoritarian fascists take full control). I’m talking about preserving their very lives since reporters tend to be pretty big targets for violence in fascist states. Wake up, this isn’t just some horse race media cycle bullshit people.

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        The oligarchy and their vassal corporations — including essentially all mainstream media — want fascism. Real journalists do not, but journalism is essentially dead thanks to capitalism and the internet.

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        You know, if you’re going to have a national plan on Parkinsons, it might be good to have, you know, a subject matter expert.

        It took me about 10 seconds to Google that article. I guess the NYT didn’t have that much time.

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        Or the entire nation is talking about the very real problem of his terrible debate performance and whipping up concern gets views. It’s less nefarious than you portray. Even the media elite mostly don’t want another round of the asshead.

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      Yeah, this is getting downright disgusting. I literally just watched a Biden rally. If the man has Parkinson’s disease, he’s got the most mild case of it ever.

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          yes, they do, crafting bills and seeking expertise for that is what they do for living and there is no reason to hide that.

          there is, however, reason to hide declining health of a president who would like to run for a second term 😂

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            Logs of visitor names are public information, but who they met with and what was discussed is not. Executive privilege keeps that information confidential.

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              you are really bad at this, spin doctor.

              there would be no reason not to say “x met with y to discuss z law”. even if the information would be technically confidential (i am not going to fact check that), there wouldn’t be reason not to volunteer that information.

              there is a reason to hide behind technicality if they are lying and defrauding the public, though.

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                Thanks for demeaning me at the the outset. Gives me an understanding what I’m dealing with.

                Executive privledge guards the executive from folks that want to use information for nefarious purposes. As such, the rules are not broken by anyone for any purpose. Hope this helps, but know it will never.

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                  folks that want to use information for nefarious purposes

                  like… electing competent president. got it 😂

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      What?

      You know Biden is in the executive and not legislative branch…

      Right?

      And even if Biden was writing this law himself, why does he need the same guy to come back 8 times in 8 months?

      Reporters grilled press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre during a press briefing over reports that indicated visitor logs showed a neurologist specializing in Parkinson’s disease was at the White House eight times over an eight month period, including for a meeting with presidential physician Dr. Kevin O’Connor.

      If the doc was meeting with the people writing the law, why was he going to the White House?

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        You know Biden is in the executive and not legislative branch…

        Presidents often propose legislation, usually while holding frequent discussions and meetings with subject-matter experts. Well, Democratic ones do, anyway. Republicans usually just focus on regulatory capture.

        And even if Biden was writing this law himself, why does he need the same guy to come back 8 times in 8 months?

        To meet and discuss Parkinsons research?

        If the doc was meeting with the people writing the law, why was he going to the White House?

        To meet and discuss Parkinsons research?

        Seriously, presidents propose legislation all the time. Did you sleep through the entire four years of Trump promising to deliver a healthcare plan? Did you forget why the one signed by Obama is frequently called “Obamacare?”

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        Legislation is often spearheaded by the President. He is the leader of the party and has the bully pulpit, so it makes sense that he would lead on the agenda.

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          Wait…

          So we do want a competent person as president and it’s not enough to just block trump?

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            What we want and what is possible are sadly not the same in this instance.

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              The DNC can nominate anyone they fucking please.

              Just like trump isnt the only problem with the Republican party, Biden isn’t the only problem with the Dem party.

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                I’m not sure the DNC is as organized a cabal of closed-door wheeler-and-dealers as you imply.

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    I hope Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse comes out publically in favor of Biden backing out of the race, just so we have the “White House spars with Whitehouse” headline.

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    Yes, Alex, “what is the Streisand Effect?”

    For real though, I hadn’t heard anything about Parkinson’s crap until a day or two ago, and I tend to keep my ear pretty close to the ground. If that’s an actual thing he’s dealing with… that’s a disqualification imo. Even moreso now that his interview on Friday seems to have unintentionally revealed how big a role his ego and hubris seems to be playing in his refusal to even seriously address the very real and legitimate concerns people are expressing (and that his campaign is aggressively, though unsuccessfully, attempting to dismiss outright, despite some concerning evidence to the contrary.

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    The question as asked would be a simple and emphatic “no. He didn’t meet with a Parkinson’s specialist for his own medical needs”.

    He did recently sign Parkinson’s orders which would perfectly align with the visits. But they won’t say that. And as a press secretary if that was the issue you take an issue that is gripping the news cycle and answer it with a spotlight on a very positive news story! Why would you hide that?! You wouldn’t.

    I’ve hated basically all press secretaries for the past 10 years. They all suck and lie. It’s shameful. There’s a difference between spin and propagandist/bold-face lies. They are in bold face lying territory.

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    Christ. Biden’s already lost. The stink on him will not wash off. He is leagues better than trump, but no amount of downvoting is going to convince independents in the like 7 states that are gonna elect the next prez.

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    The longer this goes on, the more it gets to look like something is being hidden, but think about it…
    Officials would never publicly say that the leader of the free world is not quite fully in charge. Bad actor foreign governments would be all over that like a pack of wolves, and who knows what they might try.

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    Read the article, but tldr:

    Reporters grilled press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre during a press briefing over reports that indicated visitor logs showed a neurologist specializing in Parkinson’s disease was at the White House eight times over an eight month period, including for a meeting with presidential physician Dr. Kevin O’Connor.

    Monthly visits and one with Biden’s doc.

    Still zero clarification for whatever answer Biden was trying to give on Fridays interview about how often he gets a neurological exam though.

    If you haven’t seen it yet, it’s about 8 minutes in:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LoAsHz-Mc