Funny, that despite all that popular action, Europe is still so servile the United States. I was just criticizing the leadership in Europe, but if things are really as democratic over there as you’re claiming, perhaps that derision should be directed to the European people.

A good start.

The only thing Europe is scrambling to figure out is how to reaffirm their servitude to the US. They are just so pathetic.

When you say things like “state controlled media” you need to clarify if you’re referring to Iran or the US.

Jumping back in here to get your dickhead take on the fact that the hypothetical isn’t hypothetical anymore. Now that we are the aggressors, and your worldview thinks that being attacked justifies overwhelming violence in response, I suppose you’re all good with the USS Gerald Ford resuming poop operations at the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea, right?

I would suggest that people eat RFK instead.

The entire reason why there is a thread here, the entire reason the Gerald Ford is positioned where it is, the entire reason why any American is discussing Iran right now, is because we are building up to an unprovoked attack on them.

You perfectly embody the deluded depravity of this shithole nation.

Ok dickhead. The scenario we are discussing is that the US, that beacon of morality, attacks Iran like we are saying that we will. Then in response, the Iranians put the Gerald Ford to rest. I am saying that the US, and the Gerald Ford, and all of its little war criminal inhabitants, would fucking deserve it. I’m further saying that the world needs to see the US get this kind of bloody nose. Right now, the US considers itself to be impervious, and beyond the scope of actual repercussions for its own actions. Your statements echo that sentiment. Such a loss would go some way to change that assumption.

I’m surprised that Tim could stop sucking trump’s dick long enough to get the words out.

Fuck this man, this administration, this president and the entire Republican Party that has engineered the horrors to come. Fuck the entire Democratic Party that simply refuses to act in yet another critical moment where opposition is necessary, just as they have for the entire forty year Republican progression toward violent empirical fascism. To the extent that this is a democracy at all, fuck the American people who are too stupid, too deluded, too fat and entitled to stand up and change their corrupt evil government. And finally, fuck every single member of the US armed forces that will ultimately perpetrate these evil crimes against their fellow man. None of them deserve any deference or respect.

Oh, please enlighten us dolts. We are all waiting for you to explain how Iran has attacked the United States, justifying this oh so moral “defensive” war.

Hating the US isn’t a function of being online, just having and applying a well defined morality and being generally concerned with the wellbeing of people. I don’t necessarily dispute your take about the US committing crimes against humanity in response to such a loss. Such wanton violence is perfectly in character with the horrific evil that the US represents and that I am objecting to. Your casual acceptance of it is exactly why the US needs to be removed as the world hegemon.

Here to hoping that this event, and the increasing prospect that some hero will breach his safe space, causes trump and his family and colleagues ever more stress, discomfort and pain. Anything that makes life worse for all of them is a good thing.

Goddamn, it reproduced already?

I don’t want to see people die, but the US needs to suffer a wound like this.

Chevy Chase

This, exactly. trump and everything he represents is only ever been made possible by the feckless, equivocating cowardice of a Democratic Party that is more organized around fundraising than it is about accomplishing anything. Newsom is the complete embodiment of those failures and his posturing for the next presidency represents a continuation of them.

I guess we don’t need polling if we’re not doing that “democracy” thing anymore.

The only thing that tools like Scott are objecting to, is that this style of racism makes it more difficult for them to run cover for Republicans’ white supremacist project more generally.

Sorry, but this apology would have more credibility if it was issued before you were publicly exposed as being in so closely in league with the notorious rapist, pedophile and human trafficker. It should be noted that Epstein was convicted before old man Chomosky chose to run defense for him.