What is the fucking point of living if everything you believed in can be taken from you by some old white fucks

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    How does this not end with Biden assassinating Trump because he’s an insurrectionist? It’s an official act and he’d be immune from prosecution.

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      He wouldn’t have to. He just throw Trump in jail, along with the SCOTUS justices he doesn’t like, appoint new ones, openly rig the elections, and see what congress has to say about it.

      I bet there’d finally be some meaningful reform very suddenly.

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        He cannot unilaterally remove a justice from the court, or a candidate from the ballot. Even if they are in jail, a judge would need to be impeached, and Trump could still be elected.

        But dead is dead. If you’re going to go full tyrant…

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          I’m sorry, did you miss the part about this being SCOTUS declaring presidents as kings? If SCOTUS sides with Trump, nothing you said matters because Biden could just do it anyway.

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            Even Kings are only as powerful as their supporters allow them to be. Biden lacks the charisma to sell the lie that he can remove justices or presidential candidates. The “liberal” justices wouldn’t support him, nor would congress or most states. There are no Biden acolytes. Murder is cleaner.

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          Simpler still, the president can remove citizenship, can’t be a justice of you’re not a citizen. You can’t even hold most offices at that point.

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            Again, Biden can’t just unilaterally declare things. He would need Congress, States, and the Courts to go along with any legal maneuvering, and he doesn’t have nearly enough devoted supporters to declare anybody anything.

            But he can have people killed. Dead people can’t argue.

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              At the moment and (traditionally), yes he can that’s literally what we’re in court about. If laws don’t apply to the president he can do what he wants. Chest of Congress, replace governor’s with lackies, remove uncooperative justices, it’s pretty easy to get away with shit when you’re literally untouchable.

              I’m the case of citizenship the government has always had the power to revoke but just for limited things like running for foreign office. So it’s simple just say they’re running for foreign office, who’s gunna argue with the god king with all the nukes.

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                You’re missing the point.

                If laws don’t apply, then the President can do whatever he can convince his followers to go along with. Trump might have his party by the short hairs, but Biden is not that influential among Democrats. Biden could declare whatever he wants, but without cooperation from government agencies, states, party leadership, and judges, it would be ineffective.

                How many judges do you think would do for Biden what Aileen Cannon is doing for Trump? How many SCOTUS justices would reverse theory own rulings to serve Biden’s interests? How many governors would abandon all reason and justice to fall in line behind dear leader?

                Whether it’s corruption, kompromat, or abject stupidity, conservatives cluster around the party identity and will parrot whatever bullshit they are fed. Nobody is storming the Capitol building for Joe Biden.

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                  He doesn’t need all the support just key support which you get by threatening murder. That’s literally why it was brought up.

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        But what if he did it for the lols? I think that’s morally acceptable, and my demographic would be more likely to vote for him. At this point fuck it, let’s play by their rules

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        Yes, in the form of dead Palestinians. A politician is a politician, they are all scum and have an agenda. Your wellbeing is not on it.

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          I’m sure you really care about genocide and this isn’t bad faith arguing at all.

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            Why the fuck do americans assume that anyone calling out their barely functioning administration is suddenly a trump supporter. Im not even an american, i think trump should be executed and im free to criticise your elderly white branches of state oppression for being literally evil. The fact that you have bigger problems in your upcoming „election” does not justify their shitty behaviour and im sorry so much that your two party system is just a ploy to keep you believing in democracy in a country which fails at keeping its schools gun violence free.

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              I’m not American either and I didn’t call you a Trump supporter. I accused of you arguing in bad faith.

              This is what wikipedia says about bad faith:

              Bad faith ( Latin: mala fides) is a sustained form of deception which consists of entertaining or pretending to entertain one set of feelings while acting as if influenced by another. [1] It is associated with hypocrisy, breach of contract, affectation, and lip service. [2]

              I thought you were arguing in bad faith because you talked about current US foreign policy in Israel, when this is an article about the Republicans stacking the supreme court to subvert US democracy.

              You are now continuing to make the claim that political parties in the US are equally evil, along with some whataboutery regarding gun violence. You are off-topic and it sounds like you are trying to defend the Republicans by complaining “but BoTH SiDeS!” - hence, bad faith.

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                Yes but I replied to a commend about Biden and his alleged high moral standards. Apparently high moral standards means describing an active genicide as “a little over the top” while actively supporting it and refusing to stop supporting it even though it clearly impacts his popularity with his base.

                And I could hardly be defending anyone if I say both sides are bad. Im simply saying that both sides are bad. Republicans are worse but democrats are still an evil group of shitty politicians. The recent trend here where people are instantly accusing anyone criticizing Biden’s take on the Palestinian genocide of being a russian paid troll reeks of fox news level bipartinisim which is a horrible disease.

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    The state of SCOTUS is abhorrent. We truly are on the verge of a second Civil War. The terrorists have successfully infiltrated all levels of government. And they are not the terrorists featured on your local Fixed News affiliate. It’s your neighbors and often times rural areas.

    Democrats won the battle (ie, reclaiming presidency) but have lost the war.

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      Democrats won the battle (ie, reclaiming presidency) but have lost the war.

      I agree, and I think the scarier reality is this, if Donald Trump gets back into office the following things will occur:

      • He will force Roberts, Thomas, and Alito to step down during his presidency so he can guarantee indefinite control of the court for the next 40-50 years.

      • Once that is done his cronies will set up whatever legal challenges are necessary before the court to guarantee federal oversight of the elections in swing states.

      • They will be firing the majority of the Federal Employees, and will begin strategically staffing vacancies from their ranks in positions that allow them to commit economic warfare on states who do not submit to their will.

      I don’t think people really understand how bad this can get, and how fast it can get there. The level of economic slavery they can impose in 4 years with the kind of shrewd, competent, and abjectly evil sociopaths that are lying in wait this time around is going to blow people’s fucking minds.

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    Give Biden supreme power or quit the BS. It’s not so much that I want him to have this power, it’s more so that I don’t want Trump to exist…and I’m hoping with ultimate power, Biden makes the ultimately right decision

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      I’m hoping with ultimate power, Biden makes the ultimately right decision.

      Democrats, unfortunately, have an annoying tendency to cling to honor while the walls are being torn down around them.
      Biden will absolutely “do the right thing” from the honorable point of view and just roll with the election results, and peacefully hand power to Trump if he wins.

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      I’m hoping with ultimate power, Biden makes the ultimately right decision

      He appointed famously “acceptable to republicans until Obama nominated him” MERRICK GARLAND as AG. That along with his actions and lack of same with regards to the Israeli apartheid regime and their ongoing genocide (as well as his reactions to the violent and unconstitutional suppression of anti-genocide protest) says all you need to know about how he uses and chooses not to use his power.

      Disclaimer to ward off whataboutism bullshit and accusations of ulterior motives: yes, he IS by far the lesser evil compared to the Mango Mussolini, but that’s besides the point and also doesn’t make him not an evil.

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    Everyone who is so sure Biden won’t do something… For the first time ever, Biden’s life is at stake due to politics. Dude has never needed an abortion. Or food stamps. But he and his family will be dead in 12 months if he doesn’t have a contingency plan.

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      lol right. The secret service, FBI, and every other agency in the country with the express objective of maintaining the status quo are just gonna let a president get killed. This isn’t the 60s.

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          When he’s no longer president, he’ll still have secret service agents guarding him with their lives 24/7. He’s the safest man on the planet.

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              This is fucking nonsense. You don’t need to be at “president orders legal hits on political rivals” level of corrupt for a country’s electoral system to be in absolute shambles.

              But holy shit do we have a ton of big actual nightmare problems in the US to worry about, and the health and safety of its eldest active war criminal is easily near the bottom of the pile. You know what, I hope you’re right. I hope Biden is fucking terrified for his life. Maybe that will scare him into doing the one god damn thing he needs to do to get elected.

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    They have a perverse loyalty to the guy that appointed them and the rest are incapable of independent thought or judgement