Well of course they should pay for their own power!! They’re private companies! What am I missing here?
“ Data centers must pay for the grid upgrades they require and can’t siphon power from existing power plants, according to the bill. It also directs the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to update its rules related to transmission lines — which transport electricity — to allow data centers to reduce demand during peak energy hours. “
This seems reasonable to me.
Not just pay for their own power, TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.
They’re in a hurry because there’s a FUCKTON of cash in it, we need to TAX them like we ACTUALLY KNOW THAT.
Please don’t let this blasphemy go. They’re using your fresh water, at your expense, for THEIR benefits. For AI clankers who cant fix an Excel sheet properly.
This country is completely dysfunctional.
That’s shit.
We need it to be renewable power.
if they have to pay for it, so will they.
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Why aren’t they paying for their own power?
They’re not paying for additive demand. If grid updates or plant expansions cost $1b then that’s distributed across all customers equally based on their consumption. So let’s say there’s 1m customers and the utility spread the costs over 10 years… $100 more per customer assuming equal consumption across.
Schiff is proposing the data center itself is saddled with the $1b and all other customers bills are held flat.
Free market bro. People have a market and you just show up and take what ya want.
After you’ve already made a billion.
Because it’s cheaper to bribe officials to make the locals pay for it.
Same should go for any utility.
How is this not the default?
We are doomed, what a bunch of clowns
Pay!? Make them BUILD 2x the capacity they need and give the rest away to the grid. Don’t let them get away with using money to escape the social consequences of their choices. The responsibility to ensure they have no impact should be forced to be theirs and theirs alone.
Write laws that make them cease to exist if they don’t do this.
Given we have the technology, any new construction should be required to be environmentally neutral at a minimum, ideally with ongoing improvement.
If they need to use millions of gallons of groundwater? Great, go fucking wild, but directly fund managed aquifer recharge projects to replace that groundwater at an equal or greater rate.
Increases in resource consumption should be covered entirely by the data center plus improvements to benefit the community.
No longer should big business be used as a means to siphon the value of labor and natural resources and concentrate it for selfish use by the worst of humanity.
Data Centers should be forced to pay to return the cost of power by consumers to normal. So as Datacenters buy power at the going rate, increasing price, they will also subsidize consumers to the point that power costs are the same as if there were no Datacenter.
Also, LLMs are worthless and will burn life away from this planet.
Fuck it. Make them use renewables as well.
I’d say make them fund the creation of power plants that will produce 200% of their 24 hour usage in 24 hours.
They shouldn’t just make what they use. They should be improving the communities where they operate.
One step further.
Data centers must provide more clean energy to the grid than they remove.
Trying to think of a monkey’s paw situation :
The AI companies would nuke cities to change the other side of the equation.
Edit: that doesn’t work.
They would nuke the solar panels not on their property. They don’t need to provide any renewable energy if they don’t draw in any.
Right now a data center will come in and demand the power grid be expanded. They will bribe local officials whovwill then allow the electric company to massively increase rates to cover the new infrastructure the data center needs. Its pretty much the same as how the water service is handled.
I don’t get it. Why aren’t they already paying for their power? Why is this bill necessary? It sounds like common fucking sense to me, so why isn’t that the default?
So who’s paying for their power now?
“common sense” doesn’t mean legislation isn’t necessary, what kind of logic is that?
They do pay for their power. The bill would require them to pay for grid upgrades that their usage makes necessary.
Well yeah, but my question was: why does this need a bill at all? By default they should pay for their own shit.
At least my provider, when they need to build a new plant or do capacity upgrades, they get the PSC to give them blanket increases in service charge or kWh-rate, on the basis that everybody contributes to the higher demand. Now we’ve got single customers claiming they want the full output of two or three power plants, and why should I pay the mortgage on those plants for 20 years? When the data center will be gone in 5?
The grid itself is public property serviced by contractors using public funds. Datacenters will overwhelm that grid without extreme improvements.
So unless they’re forced to pay for it, citizens will foot the bill.
I really hope this gets passed, but it sounds like something Trump’s buddies would be against.
We are.
How about pay for ALL the power?
Nah, I think we should give them all the power. All at once.
They need lots of energy. Kinetic energy.
Well if we deliver too much power all at once it’ll… Ooooooooooh.
