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      Oh, but it’s only about states’ rights when it is convenient for conservative arguments. Otherwise it’s just federal power all the way down.

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      If the individual states don’t allow him on their ballot although he hasn’t been found guilty by courts or congress how long is it before the pre-election period is just red states eliminating blue nominees?

      This is bad precedent.

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        although he hasn’t been found guilty by courts or congress

        It’s not a legal trial, it’s not a law, it’s an amendment to the constitution. No finding of guilt by a court is required.

        This is bad precedent.

        Blocking a presidential candidate from a states ballot because they violated the 14th amendment by engaging in an insurrection is bad precedent? Your argument is a little silly, Republicans already work in contradiction to the laws and constitution, doesn’t mean Democrats or the American people in general should not follow them.

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          What’s stopping the republicans from doing the same to Biden?

          That’s what the people who are taking offence to what I’m saying are not seeing.

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            What’s stopping the republicans from doing the same to Biden?

            Did Biden participate in an insurrection? Unless some very big news went under the radar Republicans can’t disqualify Biden under the 14th amendment. That’s what you’re not seeing.

            Your argument is don’t uphold the 14th amendment to the constitution because Republicans might try to unlawfully disqualify Biden from the ballot? I don’t believe you don’t understand how absurd that is.

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        On what grounds would they be removed? They can’t kick somebody off the ballot if it won’t stand up in court.

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            Thanks. It’s a legit question though. A rogue Secretary of State could try but you know it’ll land in court and the Judiciary will decide based on the merits of the case.

            Personally I support this precedent being set. We should uphold our laws to protect our country. If a Democrat ever lands in a similar situation then this precedent will be good to have had set.

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        But then the argument is we shouldn’t follow the law because the GOP might break it

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              I told you my reasoning, I clarified it and if you’re looking for an argument about it you’re not getting it from me.

              Have a nice day and thanks for the conversation.

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                I just asked a non confrontational question. If you can’t deal with that, that’s your business

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                I just asked a non confrontational question. If you can’t deal with that, that’s your business