• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    188
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    2 months ago

    Blatantly illegal.

    But Biden won’t step up and make Garland do his job.

    Just throw it on top of the giant piles of reason “not trump” isn’t enough to fight fascism.

    We need people actually willing and able to fight, best case scenario for Biden is he’s only one of those things.

    And as president, he’s clearly able to direct the DOJ, if he believes he shouldn’t be able, that makes him unwilling to fight fascism.

    • vxx@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      56
      ·
      2 months ago

      musk is all in. He either goes to prison or trump wins.

      I’m sure investigation starts immediately, but it won’t get results until after the election.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        29
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        What investigation is needed?

        There’s no way this is legal, it’s what “blatantly illegal” means.

        Like, if someone stripped naked, got a full automatic gun and walked around the White House busting off caps, it’s “blatantly illegal” no investigation needs to be done.

        This isn’t like Musk went home and put pants on, he’s still running around literally everyday till the election doing this.

        You stop the person from committing the crime, and lock them up if there’s reasonable suspicion they’ll keep committing crimes.

        Then when you’ve stopped more crimes from happening, you investigate the crimes that already blatantly happened, as well as looking for others.

        • vxx@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          27
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Are you suggesting to lock musk up for up to a year without a jury convicting him? For an illegal lottery.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            39
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            2 months ago

            That rich people be held to the law!!!

            Reginald! Get the fainting couch, I need to go get my pearls so I may clutch them

            • vxx@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              26
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              Honestly, it sounds so bad it would proof the trump campaign right.

                • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  I’m wondering if people are confused about your comment because they are missing the fact that Musk is literally an African American (American now, originally from Africa).

              • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                10
                ·
                edit-2
                2 months ago

                Right about what, exactly? You do know this is a random person talking out of their ass on the internet about how they want the justice system to work, not reality.

                Have no fear, there would be an investigation and a jury and conviction before Musk is behind bars (LOL JUST KIDDING, Musk is rich and will never face consequences)

                • vxx@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  26
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  2 months ago

                  Right about the radical left wanting to imprison political opponents. Without due process

                  Over an illegal lottery that could be argued to be a sweep

                  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    2 months ago

                    Jail and prison are 2 different things. You are held in jail, and may be able to be let out on bond depending on the charges against you, while you wait to receive your due process. You are not held in a prison until you are sentenced by a judge, following a conviction by a jury.

                    If your due process is violated and you are imprisoned without conviction, guess who would probably be interested in taking your case? Probably the ACLU.

          • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            13
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            You know, they do that to people every single day.

            They hold people (remanded into custody) until a trial if they are a threat to the public.

      • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 months ago

        musk is all in. He either goes to prison or trump wins.

        If trump has proven anything, it’s that wealthy Republicans can get away with literally anything in this country. Musk isn’t going to prison, and I doubt he’ll even see a courtroom over this.

        • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          2 months ago

          Seriously… Trump staged a literal insurrection and is the top presidential candidate. They think Musk is going away for some voter bribery?

    • Fluba@lemdro.id
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Just curious, why do you think Biden has to do anything? There’s teams of people in charge of enforcing laws that don’t need the president to tell them what to do. A CEO doesn’t tell everyone under him what to do. He just expects them to do their job to the best they’re able.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        Because I know who Merrick Garland is and have observed his behavior over the last four years?

        It’s legit one of the few areas I agree with Biden:

        In recent weeks, President Biden has grumbled to aides and advisers that had Garland moved sooner in his investigation into former President Donald Trump’s election interference, a trial may already be underway or even have concluded, according to two people granted anonymity to discuss private matters. That trial still could take place before the election and much of the delay is owed not to Garland but to deliberate resistance put up by the former president and his team.

        https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/09/white-house-frustration-with-garland-grows-00140813

        Although I disagree with Biden on his path forward. Rather than replace Garland, his plan is to grumble to aids and adversers that Garland doesn’t do what he wants, I believe Biden should have never appointed him in the first, and can offer no plausible explanation for why he hasn’t been replaced other Biden is (say it with me) unwilling to fight fascism as hard as it needs to be fought.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 months ago

            What?

            You want me to drop a specific name?

            If you really want me to I can look at the DOJ top chain of command and find at least one that seems willing to do their job if you really wanted, but I’m not sure why you’d expect me to have a list of candidate prepared for you.

            Do you want me to see if they have time for mock interviews too?

            I could name drop it’s for you if you think it’ll help, but frankly I’m worried no one will reach back out…