So is she pretending to move left or is El Sayed going to make a pivot to the status quo?
I’d prefer if she stayed away.
everyone would prefer if she stayed away. However the DNC is probably going to push her again as they consider her the ‘safe’ candidate who is not going to upset their donors or push any sort of real change like people want.
I.E. the candidate that will lose, but they can shrug their shouldres and go “but we twied”
Of course the democrats are stupid enough to bring Kamala Harris back into play.
Hey, shes still fresh off fucking up the last election. She still has plenty of get up and go for fucking up this one.
I’m sure we’re not far from them bringing the Clinton’s back as well
I’d take Hillary over Harris any day.
Why?
I’ve never seen Kamala show the level of intelligence, gravitas, or understanding of world events that Hillary has.
I think I honestly replied to the wrong person, because I agree with you 100%.
She’s a statesman with enormous experience and political clout (at least had) with a solid ideological foundation in and conviction of democracy and rule of law. These days that goes a long fucking way. What they did to her is probably only eclipsed to what they did to Monica Lewinsky. They just demonize people relentlessly until they become a persona non grata in anyone’s mind- just look at everyone even in this thread shitting on her, they’ve been swept up in the same propaganda dragnet as the right, they start repeating right wing propaganda talking points yet would be incapable of mentioning a single thing she did politically or any of her propositions.
Is she flawless? Lol no.
Is “flawless” something we expect from leadership? Lol YES!
And if they aren’t flawless, then they are just as bad as the bottom of the barrel, therefore it makes sense to vote for the bottom of the barrel instead.
¯\(ツ)/¯
In what context? Both are poisonous to any campaign.
Hiliary has experience in office but is very much a warmonger and happy to attack populations campaigns in Detroit need to attract.
If in terms of being in office she’d fit more in the GOP with what she campaigned on in her presidential runs.
I think this is one of those necessary evil type of things.
He’s very vulnerable with centrists, because they suck and don’t think blue no matter who applies to them, apaic is spending on Rogers, and the Democratic Jewish community is fundraising for his Republican opponent.
Like it or not, unity will be important to him if he wants to win and help enact progressive policies.
Plus if he’s talking about black healthcare, to black women, she’s as good as any right now outside of Jocelyn Elders.
Of course of she had any wits about her she’d use this setting to also apologize for her snub of the Muslim community.
“Please forget about me throwing Gaza under the bus a couple of years ago. It’s a two-party system!”
And, sadly, that’s accurate. It pisses me off that there has been no accountability for this, but she is still head and shoulders above anything smelling like MAGA.
Kamala single handedly invaded Gaza and murdered babies with her bare hands.
Jesus christ MAGA isn’t even the biggest threat to the left, it’s the single issue leftists.
Why would El-Syaed agree to such a thing.
He’s a landlord, dude.
I share your sentiment to a degree. However, Kamala remains popular with centrist liberal voters who are still sore she lost the 2024 election. Having her endorse El-Sayed on his campaign trail could entice voters who see him as “extreme.”
At this point, he needs every last vote he can conjure. It’s politics in 2026. Such is the state of a corrupt, two-party, winner-take-all electoral system.
From NBC:
Roxie Richner, a spokesperson for El-Sayed, told NBC News on Wednesday that “Abdul is thrilled to welcome Vice President Harris to Michigan for a conversation about improving Black maternal health and bringing down healthcare costs.”
Richner added: “He looks forward to hearing directly from Black women and healthcare providers and discussing how he’ll continue that work in the Senate. There’s no better choice for Michiganders than Abdul when it comes to making healthcare more affordable, and he’s grateful Vice President Harris will join him in spreading that message.”
Okay, that is actually on brand for him. Glad to see it isn’t because of her foreign policy
We’ve been calling him a liberal Zionist for a while now, well the you go directly partnering with the genocide committers to absolve them off accountability and normalize “we’re against killing, on both sides” and “two state solution” bullshit.
Hope it brings him down and teaches others a lesson.
Who the fuck is the “we” you speak for in your insane purity test?
It’s always good when people like you out themselves, that you consider opposition to genocide, apartheid, and occupation an “insane purity test”.
Disingenuous. Life’s not that black and white, especially in politics. Someone can be against those things, and still have voted for Kamala because it was the best option available.
"If you don’t agree with every single word I say exactly like I say it you are a right wing extremist and a literal nazi.
Now if you don’t mind I need to inform the mailing list that you and everyone you associate with have been canceled."
Purity testing is when you check if somebody supports settler colonialism, as everyone knows.
And he has openly criticized the genocide, but because he didn’t also do a backflip while doing so apparently he needs to fall so a Republican can take his seat.
This is exactly fucking it. You hear “Gaza genocide real” in the year of 2026 and you immediately start soyfacing because of it. Get a fucking grip.
Has your favourite Dubai landlord made 1 (one) anti-Zionist (not liberal Zionist) statement yet? Or is he too busy collaborating with the main genocidaires while not doing the bare minimum (what you call a “backflip” for fucks sake).
Has your favourite Dubai landlord
I’m just gonna highlight that and walk away with a W.
Roflmao, you deny THAT? 🤣
Edit: For anybody who’s not a cowardly little removed: https://freebeacon.com/democrats/abdul-el-sayed-discloses-rental-property-in-dubai-and-outstanding-debt-to-luxury-developer-behind-resort-style-community/
ah, thanks. Was not aware of this.
El-Sayed needs black women to vote. Kamala is a poor substitute for Obama, but she’ll do folks.
If you only invite your friends to the party, you limit the number of new friends you can make. Sometimes you invite that annoying guy with the hot sister.
Oh, FFS, I hope she doesn’t run again. JFC.
Looking to witewash herself.
Don’t fall for when centrists learn to speak our language as it becomes popular.
Please just go away already.
Fuck
Yes, let’s send away every popular democrat, why even bother winning over Trump, even if the other option isn’t ideal
So popular she was like the first one to drop out of the 2020 primary.
Also so popular she suffered the worst electoral defeat since California went Republican.
You’re learning the wrong thing
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/harris-trump-economic-proposals-poll
Kamala Harris’s economic policies proved far more popular than Donald Trump’s plans in a blind test of their proposals.
https://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/trump-wins-while-americans-vote-for-progressive-policies/
This was not a loss on policy. This was not a loss on ideas.
This was a propaganda war, people were lead to fear the Democratic party and were convinced Trump was a good businessman.
People said they voted for Trump due to the economy, while every economic policy they liked when presented it without a name attached came from Kamala. They HATED Trump’s ideas when his name wasn’t attached.
Stop teaching yourself the wrong lesson. Get prepared to fight the propaganda, don’t join the infighting.
Policies are meanignless if you are bad are presenting them or people do not trust that you will accomplish them
Listen to her speak, she is actually really good at presenting her policies, the issue is nobody will pay attention to her and she won’t lie to get the attention she feels she needs like Vance has stated he does. Remember during the 2024 election cycle when she literally had to chase down reporters? There are endless examples of her walking up to the press and trying to discuss policy just for them to shut her down without a chance to speak… meanwhile those exact same people were doing anything to be the 9 trillionth person to report on whatever nonsensical blatant lies and hate were spilling out of Trump’s mouth at the time.
And all of that aside…how in the fuck are you going to claim somebody lost to Trump because they were bad at presenting policy? Trump has the poorest speaking abilities of anybody in the entire history of US politics, same with his displayed understanding of policies, laws, governmental structure, constitutional framework, etc. He is literally the absolute worst we’ve ever had at all of the things you say are the reasons the other side lost.
yes, when we she get the credit she deserves for being such a great communicator?
Kamala Harris on geography: So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for.
on community banks: We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks, because we know community banks are in the community, and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of community.
on the pandemic: We also recognize just as it has been in the United States, for Jamaica, one of the issues that has been presented as an issue that is economic in the way of its impact has been the pandemic.
on Roe v. Wade: I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled.
on the 50th anniversary of Roe v. Wade: I think of this moment as a moment that is about great momentum.
on a mass shooting in Highland Park, Illinois: We’ve got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to take this seriously.
on space exploration: It is critical that we… partner to ensure that we are speaking the same language with the same motivation, inspired by the opportunity of it all, but then doing the work of updating how we have been talking and thinking about our exploration in space.
on transportation: Together, we are expanding access to transportation. It seems like maybe it’s a small issue; it’s a big issue. You need to get to go and need to be able to get where you need to go to do the work and get home. Kamala Harris on the record flow of illegal immigrants crossing the border We have a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation including ours in our administration.
Harris on water policy: We have long — and Wade and I worked together for years back in San Francisco — talked about the importance of taking seriously the urgency of this moment and, in particular, in dealing with the various issues that are present when we look at the climate crisis, thinking about water policy, diversifying water policy, understanding that we must have the ability to diversify our approach and our — and the resources to everything from what we do in terms of conservation to recycling, desalination, and storage of water.
I’m inspired. Arent you inspired? I mean, she is the one person who could continue Bidens oratory legacy, but we passed her by because of the trivial issue that she wouldn’t oppose genocide. Thats just unfair, right. Clearly this is 100% the media’s fault. It cant be that the Dem elite ran an incoherent loser who was out of touch with what Dem voters cared about. Lets run her again in 2028.
/s
I will not waste my time with a cultist
What cult am I in? I’ve spent my entire life advocating for human and worker rights against both parties and every organization in the US government. I’ve been personally blocked by countless US reps and law enforcement organizations across the country.
You were literally arguing antithetical statements and jumped to baseless name calling when you were called on it. You can’t claim somebody lost to Trump over their ability to discuss policy when Trump himself is the de facto worst policy speaker in the entire history of the country, dude even routinely shits on his own policies and verbatim states that whoever signed them in is the worst president ever…while taking credit for the things democrats passed after he shit talked it while it was up for debate.
Are you sure you aren’t in a cult? Right wing authoritarianism is just as popular in Europe as it is in the US, how are you making sure you aren’t being misled into believing contradictory things…like the statements you made here.
you are called a Democrat, shouldn’t you believe in some sort of inherent sacredness of popularity? why champion the verifiably least popular known Democrat?
Not a Democrat. And if I believed in some “sacredness of popularity” I would be defending Trump…like you keep doing.
Are you positive you are not in cult yourself?
The same to people Iike you honestly. Green MAGA fuckwits.
Green MAGA fuckwits
… what? Well that’s new one
It’s common protest non-voter terminology.
Why? Does he want to lose?
this can only be fixed with a 3 hour special on the young turks
obviously
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Trump’s policies were all unpopular and people hated his ideas.
He won because media told people the Democrat’s good ideas were his and that only be could be trusted to implement them, and too many believed it. He copied promises from Kamala outright and media only reported on his statements and not hers.
People LIKED the Democrat campaign plan. They were simply convinced to not trust it by propaganda.
I mean it doesn’t help she went republican lite on immigration.
Yeah, that and dropping “weird” was stupid things they trusted the political consultant class on… They certainly didn’t run a perfect campaign, but people act like it wasn’t the propaganda that made a difference
Many things can be true and to blame. I just want dems to stop giving fuel to right wing propaganda by accepting the framing of said propagandists.
Sure, but justified or not, the personality behind the policies is very important to most ppl. She was the least popular candidate in the primaries. She ran a presumptuous half-assed victory lap campaign. She ran to the center and proposed nothing new or inspiring. She avoided difficult topics and fumbled when confronted with them. So, her policies were mostly fine (except of course that big one), but people maybe don’t want a non-leader type former cop to spearhead those policies.
She’s going to run in 2028, isn’t she? She’s trying to ride his coattails.
Could she… not?
Are they doing that thing that parents do to try and get their kids to stop doing something by showing interest in it?
