cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/31339435
By Orlando Mayorquín and Jesus Jiménez
Reporting from Los Angeles
Published June 6, 2025 Updated June 7, 2025, 11:10 a.m. ET"The raid at the clothing wholesaler began about 9:15 a.m. in the Fashion District, less than two miles from Los Angeles City Hall.
It was an extraordinary show of force. Dozens of federal agents wearing helmets and green camouflage arrived in two hulking armored trucks and other unmarked vehicles, and were soon approached by a crowd of immigrant activists and supporters. Some agents carried riot shields and others held rifles, as well as shotguns that appeared to be loaded with less-than-lethal ammunition."
But Americans have soooo many guns.
Everyone is afraid to fire the first shot.
The mass machine gunnings will begin soon
I’ve been watching it on 30+ different TikTok live feeds since Friday. It’s mutual escalation. ICE hit and run a protestor, protestors began throwing cinder blocks and M80s, ICE deployed tear gas, now the National Guard is dispatched.
Hegseth has the Marines standing by, and the Insurrection Act will be next. This is what happens when we get violent before we have the numbers to fight. We’re fucked because people are acting on emotion and completely unaware that this is Trump’s Reichstag Fire.
Edit: Please share this.
Yes the protests should stop doing anything after attack by others.
ICE hit and run a protestor
I’m curious why you call it mutal escalation when it starts with swat raids and running people over
I was clear that ICE started it. If you watch the video, you’ll also see that the protestor was running backwards in front of the vehicle down a main road for half a block.
https://files.catbox.moe/ykdo17.mov
The point is, we cannot be violent in our resistance AND grow our numbers. It’s one of the other. Violence gets people incarcerated and keeps people afraid to leave their homes, while giving justification for further encroachment on our rights.
So ICE is the one escalating.
And for
further encroachment on our rights.
Notice that’s been happening since the country was founded. Hell cops make up reasons all the time.
Then if there isn’t an violence they’ll put in a provoker or just make up the reason for putting the boot down.
If we’re at the point where people aren’t going to fight either way it doesn’t really matter
They escalated first, yes. That doesn’t justify escalation on our part.
Don’t pretend that your feelings are facts. You sound like MAGA.
How the actual fuck do you expect 1-2% of our nation to violently overthrow the government? All this will do is incarcerate people and scare others into their homes, effectively reducing our numbers, while giving Trump the justification he wants.
Your feelings outweigh your logic. Maybe you should keep them to yourself until you can think more clearly.
Mate I don’t think you understand the counties history.
Time and time again they’ve shown they don’t need an actual reason.
If also recommend maybe you need the chill time considering you seem to really take everything personal when others point out flaws in your spammed comments
What about losing people to fear of unsafe protest conditions and incarcerations makes sense to you? All so a few people can get their rocks off like Leroy Jenkins throwing shit at officers? It’s completely counterproductive when we don’t have the numbers to take it all the way.
I’m not taking any of this personally. I’m taking the logistics of it very seriously. This type of half-assed violent resistance is exactly how Hitler chipped away at the population. We cannot be dumber than Trump, especially when we literally have his playbook.
Please read and learn history. As others say they will make up escalations or excuses for violence because the point is to crack skulls and terrify civilians.
Like labour strikes broken up by police, voting rights broken up by police, soldiers camping for their pay broken up by tanks, civil rights protests broken up by police and brutality, Vietnam https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240503-kent-state-university-1970-protests-that-shook-the-us, BLM, and those Protesting against the genocide in gaze.
The only constant is protests are always a risk precisely because those in power are always afraid. Your point should be showing how to prepare not just go how dare those protesters do anything in response to getting upset.
I’m taking the logistics of it very seriously
you clearly aren’t, again learn history as the Reichstag fire was just the Nazis doing a false flag to make up reasons for escalations and excuses for violence because the point is to crack skulls and terrify civilians.
Fascism will escalate regardless, in the absence of real resistance they will simply lie to justify doing what they were always planning to do anyway, passively accepting their actions will do nothing to help, resistance is the only correct answer and it will absolutely have to be violent
I watched it happen all day yesterday. Protesters are throwing rocks through windows of vehicles as they drive by. They’re lighting M80s and throwing them at the agents.
The VAST majority is peaceful. Many are throwing rocks. A few are taking even further.
I get that they’re pissed, but this isn’t the solution. Refusing to walk into a trap isn’t cowardice, it’s strategy.
You watched and learned nothing, resistance isn’t a trap and your passivity won’t save you
look our only options are to vote as hard as we can even when both parties are fighting to be the ones to do this policy
I never said resistance was a trap. I said violent resistance was. Violence will hand Trump his Reichstag Fire on a silver platter.
Nonviolent “resistance” is worthless, idk what part of “they will make shit up anyway” you’re not understanding
Emotions have taken over their thinking process and are just lashing out. Sad how often they are like that
Trump is itching to enact the Insurrection Act. That will make growing our numbers far more difficult. Meanwhile, you’re advocating losing resisters to incarceration, scaring people back into their homes due to unsafe protest conditions, while giving Trump the justification he needs to strip our rights.
Do you always think with your feelings? You should try your brain. Logic and strategy know no cowardice. They only know how to outthink the opposition.
idk what part of “they will make shit up anyway” you’re not understanding
Would like to thank the protesters for voicing their opinions without fear…or helmets
Proud ICE Boys finally get to use their larping toys in the real world.
