cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/31339435
By Orlando Mayorquín and Jesus Jiménez
Reporting from Los Angeles
Published June 6, 2025 Updated June 7, 2025, 11:10 a.m. ET"The raid at the clothing wholesaler began about 9:15 a.m. in the Fashion District, less than two miles from Los Angeles City Hall.
It was an extraordinary show of force. Dozens of federal agents wearing helmets and green camouflage arrived in two hulking armored trucks and other unmarked vehicles, and were soon approached by a crowd of immigrant activists and supporters. Some agents carried riot shields and others held rifles, as well as shotguns that appeared to be loaded with less-than-lethal ammunition."
Yes the protests should stop doing anything after attack by others.
I’m curious why you call it mutal escalation when it starts with swat raids and running people over
I was clear that ICE started it. If you watch the video, you’ll also see that the protestor was running backwards in front of the vehicle down a main road for half a block.
https://files.catbox.moe/ykdo17.mov
The point is, we cannot be violent in our resistance AND grow our numbers. It’s one of the other. Violence gets people incarcerated and keeps people afraid to leave their homes, while giving justification for further encroachment on our rights.
So ICE is the one escalating.
And for
Notice that’s been happening since the country was founded. Hell cops make up reasons all the time.
Then if there isn’t an violence they’ll put in a provoker or just make up the reason for putting the boot down.
If we’re at the point where people aren’t going to fight either way it doesn’t really matter
Man what is wrong with lemmings. This guy can’t even suggest people could act differently without people downvoting (suppressing) his posts. He thinks police are the problem, but people could do something differently to fight back.
And that’s incorrect. On lemmy, we say “police are bad” and that’s it. Never cast your gaze elsewhere. Never talk about anything else that could change. Police are the problem, end of story, and if you don’t agree your sentiments will put on the bottom.
They escalated first, yes. That doesn’t justify escalation on our part.
Don’t pretend that your feelings are facts. You sound like MAGA.
How the actual fuck do you expect 1-2% of our nation to violently overthrow the government? All this will do is incarcerate people and scare others into their homes, effectively reducing our numbers, while giving Trump the justification he wants.
Your feelings outweigh your logic. Maybe you should keep them to yourself until you can think more clearly.
Mate I don’t think you understand the counties history.
Time and time again they’ve shown they don’t need an actual reason.
If also recommend maybe you need the chill time considering you seem to really take everything personal when others point out flaws in your spammed comments
What about losing people to fear of unsafe protest conditions and incarcerations makes sense to you? All so a few people can get their rocks off like Leroy Jenkins throwing shit at officers? It’s completely counterproductive when we don’t have the numbers to take it all the way.
I’m not taking any of this personally. I’m taking the logistics of it very seriously. This type of half-assed violent resistance is exactly how Hitler chipped away at the population. We cannot be dumber than Trump, especially when we literally have his playbook.
Please read and learn history. As others say they will make up escalations or excuses for violence because the point is to crack skulls and terrify civilians.
Like labour strikes broken up by police, voting rights broken up by police, soldiers camping for their pay broken up by tanks, civil rights protests broken up by police and brutality, Vietnam https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240503-kent-state-university-1970-protests-that-shook-the-us, BLM, and those Protesting against the genocide in gaze.
The only constant is protests are always a risk precisely because those in power are always afraid. Your point should be showing how to prepare not just go how dare those protesters do anything in response to getting upset.
you clearly aren’t, again learn history as the Reichstag fire was just the Nazis doing a false flag to make up reasons for escalations and excuses for violence because the point is to crack skulls and terrify civilians.
I’m very familiar with history. What you fail to acknowledge is that our largest nationwide peaceful protest, which will ALWAYS outnumber the violent resistance, was 5M people. That’s 1.5% of our population.
My point of the Reichstag Fire as a metaphor is that Trump is clearly using this to incite us. If the goal was to get criminals first, they wouldn’t have stated in downtown LA. That’s a high profile message. He also chose to use the National Guard before ICE stated it was necessary, over the governor’s head.
I’m sorry you’re too passionate about this topic to see it for what it is, but I will not accept your misguided interpretation of the best strategy for our current situation.
Mate your strategy is do nothing instead of preparing or doing tutorials on how to prepare for violence against protesters.
And as usual ignored everything any other person has pointed out