• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    11 months ago

    The Guardian legit just made me LOL:

    “At 70, West is seven years younger than the most likely Republican candidate, the former president, 91-time criminal indictee and adjudicated rapist Donald Trump.”

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      11 months ago

      I don’t think he’s wrong on this, but he’s still Cornel West.

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    11 months ago

    This won’t happen unless it looks assured that Trump won’t win. That’s basically the only reason Ole Joe has stuck around.

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      That’s basically the only reason Ole Joe has stuck around.

      He basically straight-up said that:

      If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running

      • Joe Biden
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        Yeah, but he also said in that same interaction that “at least 50” other Dems can beat him.

        So its not that he thinks he’s the only one that can beat trump and that’s why he’s running.

        It’s either a pride thing, or similar to Hillary he thinks trump is the easiest possible opponent and he’s will to risk it so he can be president

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          I think you’re misunderstanding those two phrases.

          “I think I can beat trump” and “50 democrats at beat me” does not mean that “50 democrats can beat trump”.

          Primaries are different than general elections.

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            In what world would the “him” Joe Biden is saying 50 other Dems can beat referring to anyone besides trump?

            And why are you talking about primaries?

            The party won’t support a primary against Bide as an incumbent. So there just flat out isn’t going to even be a primary.

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      That actually wouldn’t be a bad scenario:

      Trump gets convicted, sent to jail, is no longer the nominee, DeSantis or Haley gets the nod at the RNC in July.

      Biden goes “thanks but no thanks” and either Harris or Newsom gets the nod at the DNC in August.

      There is a full month between the Republican and Democratic nominations.

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          Both parties are just as bad – look at me posture! Notice me senpai. Dude there is no comparison in american politics right now. One is not left enough and the other is proto fascist. Fuck out here with that rhetoric.

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            Just an fyi you are blindly repeating corporate media talking points without reading what you are responding to or reading what you are saying. It doesn’t make any sense.

            No one said the things you are saying they said.

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              That’s rich coming from somebody who’s repeating conservative propaganda that “both sides are bad”. Even if there are things you don’t like about the Democrats it’s not even a fucking choice at the moment.

              Also I attacked you for your both sides attitude. If this attitude becomes prevalent in the United States the election goes to Trump which would be very very very bad indeed, and frankly it’s just doesn’t align with reality. Where exactly did the corporate propaganda touch you?

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        No this man is serious about his commitments. I don’t think he would. People said this BS during the 2020 elections and yet here we are.

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      No… that’s the only reasonexcuse Biden is giving.

      Probably because he can’t say the real reasons. Which, if you take it at face value… it’s a joke because if he stepped aside for someone else, all the “vote for Biden or else” crowd would happily switch to thst someone else.

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    How high is this dude…wtf. Dude, you’re all over the map and need to take a long weekend away from microphones.

    Make it a month. Make it six.

    I used to have a ton of respect for this guy, but lately, a lot of the stuff he’s been saying has not made any sense. I don’t know what’s going on with this guy. 

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      He took money from Harlan Crow so that says plenty enough about what he says.

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          While I understand your point, it often creates issues beyond optics.

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      I had a poster of him on my wall at one point.

      I’m just so disappointed. Like Jill Stein is aware, running for president as a third party candidate is a grift. He’s not getting the word out there any more as candidate West than as Dr. West, who could basically just walk onto any news show and get an interview. I can’t imagine he doesn’t know that.

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    Well, Cornell is going to look like an idiot again when this also doesn’t happen.

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      He might attract a segment of antiestablishment Trump voters as well who no longer support Trump. Likely the Bernie/Trump supporters, or the 13% of Trump voters who supported Obama. Trump arguably won because of Obama-Trump voters.

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    West told Politico he might end up running against a “B team” of younger Democrats including Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, because Biden was “running out of gas”.

    So even if Biden dropped out, West would still run as a spoiler? The gall of this man…

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Joe Biden will “have an LBJ moment” and decide not to run for re-election next year, the leftwing academic and independent presidential candidate Cornel West has predicted.

    West was referring to the moment on 31 March 1968 when Lyndon B Johnson, in office since the assassination of John F Kennedy in November 1963, announced that he would not seek re-election.

    At 70, West is seven years younger than the most likely Republican candidate, the former president, 91-time criminal indictee and adjudicated rapist Donald Trump.

    Trump, West said, was a “bona fide gangster, neo-fascist Pied Piper leading the country for a second civil war”.

    West does not perform as strongly in polling as another independent seen as a potential spoiler in favour of Trump, the attorney and campaigner Robert F Kennedy Jr.

    “But if you’re looking at somebody who has a record that encompasses a whole host of things, politically, intellectually, over time and space, alongside my personal life then I might in fact, be somebody you consider very seriously.”


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