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I care because it demonstrates how pervasive his views are among the ruling class.
Show me someone who rejects Kissinger and the horrific shit he did and maybe that’s more like someone who should be in power.
More than that, centrists don’t like being reminded that their favorite human was friends with and admired a war criminal. So they have to pretend that Kissinger wasn’t as bad as he was.
Anything that makes it less likely that she runs again in 2028.
Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama. It’s no surprise at all that HRC would have a professional relationship and even a friendship with the man considering his presence in the administration during her tenure. He never let himself drift far from the seats of power. Ever.
Kissinger was perfectly happy to make himself useful in some way to perpetuate his view of the geopolitical world.
E: Don’t believe me?
Kissinger visited the White House to advise President Barack Obama more than once. And in 2016, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter presented Kissinger with a distinguished public service award from the Defense Department.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/henry-kissinger-dead-leaders_n_5d10ef86e4b0aa375f50baf0/amp
Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama
You say this like people didn’t realize Obama lied about being progressive a decade ago…
Dude was neoliberal thru and they. It’s just he was so (relatively) young no one knew his first election, and the second there wasn’t a primary so the only other option in the general was R
The man has a Nobel Peace Prize, what more can he do?
Obama campaigned on single payer. That’s VERY progressive. He just copped out on it once he was seated.
He didn’t cop out, he had to deal with Lieberman who said Single Payer was a non-starter.
Obama’s presidency was the first presidency with a truly contrarian congress. Dems should have done more when they controlled both houses, because once they lost the senate, Republicans blocked Obama’s agenda in every conceivable way, and that has been their modus operandi ever since.
Just for reference, Obamacare was supposed to be fairly close to single-payer insurance, with both public and private options (which would force private insurance to compete with the government). What we got in the end was a neutered, emaciated shell of what the original bill was supposed to be, but at least insurance companies couldn’t deny you based on preexisting conditions anymore. This was considered a huge win at the time. It’s laughable though, because this was when everyone was pointing at Canada and claiming they had death panels because universal healthcare couldn’t handle all the patients (complete bullshit/propaganda), as if our own insurance companies weren’t doing exactly this.
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Lol…
Campaigning to do something and then immediately refusing to try doesn’t make anyone progressive…
As I kid I told people I wanted to be an astronaut and they acted happy for me because I was a kid.
I never became an astronaut, so why are we calling Obama a progressive?
Campaigning to do something and then immediately refusing to try doesn’t make anyone progressive…
It does to the people who keep insisting that Biden is the Most Progressive Progressive who ever Progressed a Progress.
I love how bOtH SiDeS is now a defense.
It’s not meant to be. It’s an inference that the Cold War anti-commie imperialist way of thinking never stopped. As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy. The US has been conducting geopolitical business very much the same as it has been for multiple decades. That should be pretty obvious when you view our involvement in world events.
As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy.
So both sides do it.
And therefore Clinton being friends with him is NBD.
If this isn’t using “both sides” as a defense, it sure looks like it.
Again, reinterpreting what I said in a limited context to hyperbole.
No, both sides are not the same.
Clinton being friends with him is indicative of what her foreign policy was/would have been. Have you forgotten her work?
Exercise some nuance, man.
I see how it is.
“Both sides” is like “vote blue no matter who” in that it’s only meant to be used to dismiss criticism from the left.
You’re just making stuff up now.
You mean to tell me that you’ve never seen someone say “both sides” when someone to their left criticizes Democrats?
Why is there no insistence upon nuance then?
I’ll leave the in-depth policy statements to future commenters. I just want to know if they did it.
War crimes?
The war crime was Hank’s finishing move.
Probably while bill watched- and maybe played with a cigar.
jewish sex orgies – right there, number 5 on pornhub’s most searched for category.
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And just like that, this community warms to Kissinger.
I don’t think that’s the case at all.
Compare this thread to the one where his death was announced.
That thread was all crab emoji and celebration.
This one is all “well ackshually, every president sought the advice of this great man of history.”
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Trumpets looking to push a bit more hate on a positive career politician as it’s odd to them.
“Anyone to my left is all the way to my right”
Hillary Clinton is irrelevant these days,
Good.
This one is all “well ackshually, every president sought the advice of this great man of history.”
Top comments on old Lemmy threads are often recent comments…
The single person saying that is at a negative right now.
The single person saying that is at a negative right now.
The Clinton/Kissinger fans have fixed that.
