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    Stein’s campaign says it wants nothing to do with Duke, the former American Nazi Party member.

    It’s one thing to be endorsed by an undesirable party, it’s another to accept it or even invite them to campaign with you.

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        Harris has her own share of problematic endorsements (Cheney, Gonzalez,…). Sure, they’re not explicitly racist, ‘just’ war criminals, but she accepted them and is actually bragging about getting them.

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        Why do you think a literal Nazi would be honest in his public endorsements and not just doing it for tactical reasons?

        Think about it. Trump supporters gonna Trump. This “endorsement” is aimed at harming Steins campaign with moderate and progressive voters, as is evident with the reaction here.

        Now the question is, why he wants to do that, as it helps the Harris campaign. What does he think he gains from helping Harris?

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            So you claim Steins goal is to siphon votes away from Harris in order to help Trump.

            So the target audience of Stein under that premise are center/progressive voters. The target audience clearly is not Trump voters.

            So even if Steins goal is solely to siphon votes from the Dems, any vote that goes to her is a “win” for her. And the opposite, any voter deciding to go back to Harris is a “loss” for her.

            Him endorsing Stein is clearly aimed at achieving the latter. You said it yourself,

            Stein’s campaign exists solely to harm the democratic nominee

            So her target audience are solely potential dem voters. And these are alienated by that endorsement, as is also very clear in this thread.

            So there is two options:

            A - the guy is a total moron
            B - he is achieving exactly what he wants

            A seems unlikely to me, as nazi leaders are despicable and evil, but smart and scheming.

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                So you agree that the nazi guy is helping Harris by him alienating progressive voters from Stein.

                Then you have to conclude that he is just very very dumb, or you have to agree with my statement, that he wants to harm Stein and help Harris. Which brings the important question, what does the nazi guy gain from helping Harris?

                As the guy was leading a large organization, him being dumb is unlikely. Him being good at scheming and manipulating on the other hand is very much on brand.

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                    So you think that he beliefs his target audience to be Democrat voters?

                    Or do you think he wants to siphon off votes of Trump?

                    Because that would also help Harris, but contradict your statement regarding Stein being there to damage Harris and help Trump.