Biggest argument people are going to have against this is reading the headline and then realizing most their retirement is in the form of unrealized gains. But if you then just read the qualifier of $100 million, you will quickly realize we are not talking about normal people here. We aren’t even talking about normal rich people. We are talking about the 1% of 1% people.
I said “at least” because there’s significant variance in cost of living. I’ve already run the numbers, and for my family it’s $5MM - though this makes me realize that I meant household, so 50 is certainly not inaccurate per person.
Government has never expanded their reach when given power. Civil forfeiture was about combating organized crime not funding police departments. Border patrol has expanded reasonable searches from crossings to cover entire states. Give it 20 year and this will apply to gains over a million.
I mean… oh no? A million is still wildly more than any one human needs or should have so who gives a shit if they tax it. Also unsure if a retirement fund would exactly count as tradable assets anyways. But also, if we accidentally manage to kill the fucking stock market because of this in only two years that be fucking cool as hell lol.
You would be surprised. If you worked a decent job early in life, moved up the ladder, retired as upper middle class making $250k-ish, it is kind of expected to have about 2-3 mil in your retirement. Hell, if you work a half way decent government job and invested wisely your entire life and didn’t have stupid amounts of debt, you should have about a mil in retirement.
1 mil in retirement gives you about 5,500 per month at a growth rate of 6%, withdraw rate of 3%, and annual inflation at 3%. The current recommended retirement is a little under a mil.
As far as retirement funds counting as tradable assets, that is how your 401k accounts work. It is literally a stock market account. The question comes down to when the tax is paid, pre or post withdrawal. In a roth IRA you pay the tax coming in. In a traditional IRA you pay tax when the money comes out. Either way, as long as the money stays in the account you can make it liquid, put it in a stock, bond, mutual fund, whatever you want as long as the account can do it; but in the end it is in a trading account and short of the cash in there, it is a tradable asset.
Biggest argument people are going to have against this is reading the headline and then realizing most their retirement is in the form of unrealized gains. But if you then just read the qualifier of $100 million, you will quickly realize we are not talking about normal people here. We aren’t even talking about normal rich people. We are talking about the 1% of 1% people.
For perspective: $100MM is enough for at least 20 people to be completely set for life.
That’s enough for 50 people to live comfortably on just the gains for an entire lifetime.
I said “at least” because there’s significant variance in cost of living. I’ve already run the numbers, and for my family it’s $5MM - though this makes me realize that I meant household, so 50 is certainly not inaccurate per person.
Government has never expanded their reach when given power. Civil forfeiture was about combating organized crime not funding police departments. Border patrol has expanded reasonable searches from crossings to cover entire states. Give it 20 year and this will apply to gains over a million.
Yes, and because of this the corporate tax rate and top marginal tax rate has been trending up for the past half century… right?
The effective tax rate has largely remained constant despite changing rates for the rich. Tax avoidance has always been a thing.
I mean… oh no? A million is still wildly more than any one human needs or should have so who gives a shit if they tax it. Also unsure if a retirement fund would exactly count as tradable assets anyways. But also, if we accidentally manage to kill the fucking stock market because of this in only two years that be fucking cool as hell lol.
When a house costs a million dollars, any person easily needs at least a million dollars.
Property (middle class wealth) is already taxed in my state.
You would be surprised. If you worked a decent job early in life, moved up the ladder, retired as upper middle class making $250k-ish, it is kind of expected to have about 2-3 mil in your retirement. Hell, if you work a half way decent government job and invested wisely your entire life and didn’t have stupid amounts of debt, you should have about a mil in retirement.
1 mil in retirement gives you about 5,500 per month at a growth rate of 6%, withdraw rate of 3%, and annual inflation at 3%. The current recommended retirement is a little under a mil.
As far as retirement funds counting as tradable assets, that is how your 401k accounts work. It is literally a stock market account. The question comes down to when the tax is paid, pre or post withdrawal. In a roth IRA you pay the tax coming in. In a traditional IRA you pay tax when the money comes out. Either way, as long as the money stays in the account you can make it liquid, put it in a stock, bond, mutual fund, whatever you want as long as the account can do it; but in the end it is in a trading account and short of the cash in there, it is a tradable asset.
A million is just the result of saving over a lifetime .