• rdyoung@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    One thing.

    Tesla has never been known for luxury at all. I’d bet my ioniq phev was more luxurious and my 5 most definitely is.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah, they’re known for performance and AI features. You don’t get a Model S for comfy seats or the suspension, you get it because it’s fast and can drive by itself. Look at the marketing, it’s all about the 0-60 time and the self-driving.

      The Model 3 and Model Y are about branding (dude, you’re driving a Tesla!), and the Model X is about form factor and almost everything the S is known for. They’re not competing with Lexus and Cadillac, they’re competing with Porsche and BMW.

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      5 months ago

      For US Market maybe yes, but countries like China, Brazil, India or any Asian country $40k car is a luxury

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        5 months ago

        Luxury isn’t about price point. And last I checked, you couldn’t get a new tesla for 40k.

        Saying that tesla is luxury is like saying that McDonald’s is fine dining.

        Do yourself a favor and look up the comparable pricing for the ioniqs versus tesla. Tesla has always been overpriced (from factory) for what it offered.

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    5 months ago

    Looks like a turning point.

    Renault, VW and Hyundai have also increased their EV sales considerably in 2024 so far, while Tesla is moving down the lists.

    So it’s not just Chinese cars taking over due to artificial low pricing. I think consumers are getting more comfortable with EVs in general. Tesla no longer have the advantage of being “first” or long range or being perceived as exclusive luxury or whatever drove them to the top in the first place. Their design also looks pretty dated by now in my opinion.

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      5 months ago

      IDK Musk is taking pretty drastic action, but I suspect that will make it fail faster.
      They need to fire more people IMO, but only 1 more.

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    5 months ago

    If BYD weren’t stealing western designs I might consider them. They are saving a lot of cost from not having to do much RnD

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      5 months ago

      Source? Or is it just a matter of “it has the same shape as a western car, and a steering wheel = omfg IP theft”?

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      5 months ago

      If they are affordable and sold here I may consider them. Affordability and knobs and buttons are all I want.

      If they make a small truck on top of that, I’d start saving today.

      But I’m starting from zero knowledge, so this is all whimsical atm.

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      5 months ago

      I would never sit my ass over several kilos of several-watt-charged chinese lithium, anyway. I don’t want to be the brightest flame on the road.