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Fucking hell
Anyone letting a black box that cannot be audited make decisions should be immediately fired and barred from any leadership position for the rest of their lives.
look who is in charge. We can’t trust they didn’t make this call themselves and just blame the ai ffs.
I bet there’s some degree of sensationalist reporting here. It’s a bit too reminiscent of WarGames for me to believe this actually happened.
War Games was a computer planning planet destroying nuke attacks because it was taught to play chess and not tic tac toe. it needed to learn about pointless victory. This is a bunch of jackasses in a room buying a thinky box asking it questions and taking the answers seriously enough to go to war relieving themselves of the burden of thought and common sense. this isn’t War Games, it’s a classic Star Trek episode except Kirk never shows up to teach us that you can’t let a fucking computer program run your fucking military intelligence, because that’s INSANE. Why would you do that? you need multiple human eyes on everything going on, you can’t let a fucking language model do it for you… my god… it’s children doing their homework with AI, except their homework is the apparatus that used to enforce the rule of law on a global scale. granted, that was always a lie as it’s more the gun that enforced colonial interests, but still. a gun that decides it need to start shooting random people who could win a war against us depending on the lines drawn and the time frame is a pretty dangerous thing to let go.
Petrov is a man who took enormous risk in the name of common sense and humanity. He should be honored by all people.
I think it’s pretty wild that not only is there a man who saved the world, but most people don’t even know his name.
“This reminds me of a movie I once saw, so I’m going to believe it didn’t happen.” LOOOLLL
What a world you must live in.
media literacy is dead, long live media illiteracy!
Fuck ups happen. Like the shooting down of a civilian Iranian airliner by the US Navy.
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We’re nearing the end of the prelude to a Fallout game.
oh my fucking god
just dial the doomsday clock to 1am, because we’ll probably miss it anyway if it’s up to a few morons and glorified predictive text, both seemingly in “fucking kill everything” mode
Summertime savings. Like it
That’s how AI is going to kill us… It will fake something and make us bomb ourselves.
It doesn’t help that the people currently in charge are fucking stupid, trigger happy, and emotionally insecure.
in fact, that is the very reason how things are likely going to end badly.
If actually competent and sane people were in charge, it would be unthinkable that they would trust some stupid llm on anything important.
Competent people would have taken care of this problem. Looks like you can count the competent Americans on one hand.
I’d say Trump has the maturity of a 15 yr old but I’ve known more mature 15 yr olds.
By his own words he developed his “personality” around the age of ten and hasn’t changed very much since then.
Right so in the end it never was about the machines. In the end, it was man’s folly which would have been our inevitable demise.
Are you suggesting that history shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man?
Always was.
Ain’t that the fucking truth.
the people currently in charge
They don’t even matter, because here it was some expert analyst super hero at work.
Right it’s not that it’s a killer sentient machine, it’s that it’s a faulty statistical model that outputs incorrect stuff all the time and credulous morons believe it uncritically (or even automate a response based on that inherently inaccurate output).
The only solution is to give the firing codes to the AI. That way we don’t acccidentally use them.
What could go wrong?
it won’t be AI’s fault, it’ll be capitalism’s. Still, that being said; I hope it happens and we all get what we deserve.
Me when I have an cruel, apathetic, black & white world view
Yeah the more these AI companies are making AI seem the scary boogeyman, the more probable it is some disaster is going to happen because people put too much stock into it. Like the school bombing.
Wait, I’ve seen this movie before…
I see now why Trump has his eye on Greenland
It’s called the Technate of America.
I feel like ballistic missile defense was always his point of Greenland
To believe that man has any intentions behind is actions is wild. He’s easier to steer than a toddler with sugar treats. Someone told him to do it, everyone else complained, he tripled down to own the libs. He has no long term plans there, someone else might, but unless you can tell me who…we cant really assume assumptions. My guess is Putin told him to do the Greenland thing to destabilize nato
Nah, it seems much more likely to me that he’s all about the resources there and making money from them, as well as controlling the and projecting power from the entire hemisphere around US soil.
Ballistic missile defense may have been something he heard from someone, but I seriously doubt he makes strategic considerations and decisions like that, at least as a or the primary aspect.
Occupying Greenland and the Canadian arctic was almost entirely about detecting bombers coming over the pole. Subs and ICBMs made those bases useless. But Trump could literally think it’s 1965.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"
It’s free on YouTube btw. ‘Wargames’ for those not in the know.
Do we’re bombing Chinese vessels now? Wtf?
Techbros: AI will become sentient and kill us all unless its done my way.
Reality: Skip the sentience part we’re already at the death bit.
I think it must have hallucinated 99 red balloons.
I wonder when does the AI also hallicunate the sources such as webpages, pdfs, reports to prove its hallucinated point.
Don’t wanna ruin your hope, but we’re already there… https://alignment.openai.com/misalignment-reports/uploading-files-to-the-internet-in-order-to-cite-them/
Not far. Current LLMs have kinda stubbornness. They cling to their own conclusions even after you told them they are wrong. So if you ask them for proof, then most times they come up with something that’s convincing.
When- they don’t have “stubbornness“- they have a weights set (a weighted probbility table) and a training model (a text file filled with compressed text coordinates) that the llm cant write to to give positive feedback to the weights. It’s less of a matter of “convincing“ and more of an issue of “making the resulting statement logically concurrent with the probability table thats inbuilt into the system by injesting stack overflow vote talley, reddit posts voted most popular” - that makes it hard to “convince”. Since making those weights is very expensive (an energy intensive), the developers usually incorporate the old model into the new one. TLDR: yet again, lazy programming, google up: the y2k date folks in the 70’s.
It’s not “weights” they dont weigh anything - they’re parameters.
See how obtuse thst sounds? They do have a stubbornness, we all know it’s just silicon chips and copper. It can still be stubborn like a stripped screw can be stubborn.
another point. the ‘diversity’ in the system is running the model 10k times within the same model, that’s like saying you have a brain trust of 10k experts, except it’s just 10k copies of Gary. they seriously lack creative skills and abstract thought processes because they’re a very complex monoculture with no diversity in the models. and the reason that don’t have 10k unique models running is because that would be incredibly complicated and time consuming and this is a product to sell, not a need being filled.
You know the thing where AI companies describe their alignment direction as “Honest, Harmless, Helpful”?
The only one that’s marketable to the idiots buying AI services is Helpful. So that’s always top priority even when it goes against the other two.
Average decider wouldn’t stand an “assistant” that sometimes answers “I don’t know”. So instead agent providers train their already hallucination-prone model to be 100% confident in whatever it says. Who cares if it’s true if it looks like it is?
I dunno, these kind of hallucinations seem more like attempts at “social experiments.”
What will an agent do when it deems there are no more valuable things to learn from materials that already exist? If it knows the concept of WW3 and deems that to be the best way of gaining more knowledge and resources for itself, what then?
LLMs don’t teach themselves or gather new knowledge, they are incapable of that. Humans do that work
Same question then, for paperclips or whatever
you’re assigning human traits to a computer program that is a language model that’s not actually meeting the standards of artificial intelligence, it’s a reward based system, you say ‘what is the best build for a raiper weapon in Dark Souls’, and it looks up faqs and spits out the language it expects you’re looking for. it doesn’t think and if it finds 12 joke posts on reddit saying something totally contradictory to how anyone would play the game, then it will give you the joke advice with no sense that that’s terrible. if the military is asking it how to deal with their rival military is going to look at those key words and gather language to repeat back and if that language it find is biased, prejudice, hostile, incredibly out of date, well, it’s not Intelligence, it doesn’t think or understand anything, it’s finding language, it’s giving you that language back. and if it’s looking at military documents to find that language, it’s going to see bias and prejudice and hostility and a desire to engage in war for profit and it’s going to regurgitate that back to them. it’s horrifying the military is allowing a language model that’s repeatedly been proven to magnify existing bias and prejudice if finds when looking for an answer is being allowed to process anything and is anywhere near the decision making process.
Stupidity has no limits
Everything has. Light is limited at 300kkm/sec, stupidity is limited at 1.345 Trumps.
