I’m feeling pretty emotional and crap rn. I spent a stupid amount of money among other things… I feel disgusting and ugly.

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  • hayyy@thelemmy.clubOP
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    I understand all that but what’s right for one person is wrong for another and vice versa.

    7 days sounds extreme but it’s deeply healing for me

    I don’t quite know why I’m trying to convince you or others…

    There was some reasoning behind what I broke the fast with so I’m not too annoyed with myself about that.

    Again, the basic biological need that I’m ignoring is not eating. I know my body more than you or anyone else. I can easily eat 20,000+ in one week consistently. And I probably do. Not that I’m counting. I’m not expecting many if any people to support me on this or understand.

    And I’m not planning on “never eating again” by any means. That’s completely unrealistic. I just want to reset my nervous system from years upon years of damage. I definitely have BED.

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      I am not disputing that you know your body or that it is healing for you, I’m just trying to say that something can be healing in a sense and hurtful in another, at the same time. I am also someone that naturally tends to fast sometimes, but there are pretty well defined limits that go well beyond individual variances. If you’re planning to go for 7 days, please for the love of God at least drink water, or the nervous system reset you’ll get won’t be of the good kind. Your neurons and heart won’t work without water, no matter how strong you are. It contains no nutrients and costs either nothing or next to nothing, and I can guarantee you that being dehydrated is not a factor in the benefits you get from fasting, if not for “feeling high” in the delirious sense.

      Again, the basic biological need that I’m ignoring is not eating. I know my body more than you or anyone else. I can easily eat 20,000+ in one week consistently. And I probably do. Not that I’m counting. I’m not expecting many if any people to support me on this or understand.

      Everyone who participates in a thread like this is here to understand and support you, so I will say again what both me and others have said, underlining that I am listening to what you’re saying and that my only interest is your well-being: Your idea that not eating or drinking for 7 days is a biological need is not healthy and you should not pursue it. I say this because you’re picking a fight against nature and setting yourself up to lose. I am not saying it is completely physically impossible, but you must realize how that is well beyond human operating ranges, beyond knowing your body - and if you don’t, please, listen to us. Literally every lifeform needs to eat, none need to not eat.

      You know fasting is good for you, and doing a hard, good thing for 7 days is good for you, but the union of the two is not a good one. The goals you already achieved are significant and you should be proud of them - I know I am! But this is just pushing yourself unreasonably hard, and I don’t think there’s a good outcome for this scenario. In my view what you need to work on is breaking them in a way that doesn’t make you feel like you undid your progress, rather than going longer and longer stretches of time.

      I hope you will take the advice of talking to someone qualified about all of this, I believe the understanding and support you need are more than what internet comments can provide. I see someone that is very brave in many ways and I really think you’ll be able to reach your ultimate goals of mental and physical well-being, but don’t try to do it alone.

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        Like I said, 7+ day dry fasts have been done.

        I live in a cold country and am very sedentary. The 60 hours I just did without water was actually great and not in a delirious way. You don’t understand the abuse I’ve put my body through by drinking and eating way way too much, not listening to my body properly.

        I know what I’m doing. For the regular person, I’m sure it would be bad for but I’m not the regular person.

        Actually yes, some life forms do need to not eat and I’m one of them. Like I said, I eat waaay too much in general AND this has been done by many others before for therapeutic purposes etc and they’ve been fine. And what I meant by support me was support me in doing this. And by understand I meant truly understand my reasoning for doing so and see the genuine goodness that will come from it.

        To be completely honest, I already feel like I’m dead. Decaying. If I die, it will be the rotten no good parts of me that die. I’m prepared for that to happen. My life sucks as it is. One week In the grand scheme of things is nothing.

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          If you know what you’re doing, why are you here asking for help?

          It sounds like you really need to talk to a mental health professional, because doing what you’re doing, and the reasons you’re doing it, are not healthy regardless of how it makes you feel while doing it. Meth makes you feel really good too, but it’s certainly not good for you.

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            I’m not asking for help…

            I initially wanted support earlier since I was feeling down. I got it.

            I wasn’t asking for help on this.

            Ok whatever. I don’t expect everyone to agree or understand.

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              I think it’s important that you understand that what you’re doing is self harm. It’s an eating disorder and you need help.

              The fact that people have done extreme fasting before doesn’t mean it’s a good or healthy thing to do. The fact that you feel like a failure for eating food is extremely troubling.

              You’re going to do more harm to your family if you kill yourself doing it rather than just eating less food.

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                I’m overweight. If I was underweight, then sure, what I’m doing is wrong and unhealthy and dangerous. But I’m not…

                Its not that I feel like a failure for eating food either…

                And besides. I’d never be able to kill myself through not eating because, if it wasn’t clear enough, I HAVE BINGE EATING DISORDER. And if you don’t know what that is, look up obese people. So in other words, don’t you worry, I get my calories IN, I’m sure more than you.

                Sory but I’m sick of all the ‘get help’ comments.

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                  No, it’s still unhealthy if you’re overweight, especially if you’re also severely restricting water intake. Extreme fasting can damage your heart, cause insulin resistance, cause muscle loss, and in extreme cases, refeeding syndrome.

                  You’re just trading eating disorders at this point. You’ll have better long term results if you actually address the reasons you got obese by working with a mental health professional and focusing on healthy eating habits and an exercise regimen.

                  I’m saying this as a formerly obese person too.

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                    To be Frank, I can’t see that happening so anyone suggesting me to see a professional it’s just not going to happen.

                    And, I have A LOT of water weight that keeps me going believe it or not.

                    I’ve done a lot to my body over my life. I know this is what I need.