• Gaja0@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    You can do paperwork for these things. Marriage is convenient though. We need laws that just say “yeah I trust my friend/relative to decide for me” like a non marriage

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      4 days ago

      Paperwork didn’t help the partners of AIDS victims who were kept out of the hospital and heard of their partner’s passing via the obituaries and then kicked out of their house.

      Even today, there are families who would separate sane sex partners and do the same awful things. Marriage guarantees rights, paperwork does nothing to stop the horrible people in our lives that would lash out at the first chance.

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      You can do paperwork for these things

      Please explain to me how exactly could I “do paperwork” to restore, for example the spousal communications privilege and the spousal testimonial privilege that would both be taken away from me if my marriage was dissolved.

      And do you really expect people to just start pre-emptively filling out paperwork to notify every single hospital they might possibly ever end up in after some major health issue, that would allow their spouse to visit them, particularly if it’s a hospital in an area hostile to queer folks?

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        3 days ago

        Please explain to me how exactly could I “do paperwork”

        You enter into a contractual union that is recognized by the federal government.

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            2 days ago

            !That’s not how contracts work!<

            Which part? The entities entering into a contract or the judicial branch honoring contracts?

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              2 days ago

              The part where a contract between two parties (spouses) has any power over anyone else who didn’t sign the contract, like hospitals for visitation for example.

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        4 days ago

        I get your point. I’m saying these should extend past marriages.

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            2 days ago

            Man, fuck your strawmans and fuck you. I support gay marriage. Try spinning that however will boost your moral superiority, but I’m not engaging with your bad faith bullshit.