As an American I agree, though I have to point out something those of us living this shit nightmare know…
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
They excuse, Sanewash, and pretend it’s part of some plan to make them great.
His supporters? They can soak in their own bloodbaths and say it was Obama’s fault or some Hillary conspiracy.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
This is such a tired narrative.
Yes, yes it will.
It is hurting Trump, Trump has historically low approval ratings, people all across the political spectrum are literally shocked in realtime right now at how fast his approval ratings are tanking. Bernie Sanders and AOC are getting bigger crowds than Bernie even got during his presidential campaign. If the Republican party, Democratic party and the entire system of checks and balances were functioning in the U.S. this would be catastrophic for Trump and for Republicans in general. It still might be if we can manage to survive this.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
Go spit your venom somewhere else and stop condescending people for seeing genocide as a redline.
Leftists voted for Kamala, the people who didn’t vote were meaningfully connected to Palestinians or were Arab… in other words this wasn’t political for them this was just a basic litmus test for whether centrist democrats can be trusted not to turn a blind eye to blatant horrific genocide against arab people while at the same time lecturing other countries about human rights.
You yourself just directly chastised someone who decided not to vote for a presidential candidate that was the previous vice president under the president that directly facilitated and provided political backing for a genocide of their people and homeland, do you understand how pathetic you sound? This isn’t about Trump being worse, of course Trump is worse, what is pathetic is that you would in this moment of utter strategic failure on every level by the entrenched corporate leadership of the democratic party to resist against an openly fascist candidate… choose to pick on people adjacent to one of the most horrific genocides in modern history…
Let me re-emphasize to everyone who upvoted this fool, the person I am replying is admitting that they think their best strategy for appealing to more people with their viewpoint is picking on victims of a genocide. Do you really want to throw your lot in with people like this who are so bereft of strategies and visions that can appeal to everyone?.
By October 2024, Israel said it bombed 40,000 locations[4] in the Gaza Strip (which is 360 km2). By one estimate, as of April 2024 the bomb tonnage dropped on Gaza was more than 70,000 tonnes,[5] surpassing the combined bomb tonnage dropped on Dresden, Hamburg, and London in World War II.
the Gaza strip is only 360 square kilometers, the other bombed places being compared here are far larger areas, and yet there still has been more bombs dropped, almost every single one gleefully handed over by the U.S., on the Gaza strip than these other places.
When will you suffer enough to realize that you were on a tiny, cynical island of people who thought we could ignore the plight of the Palestinian people as if it were an unconnected issue to the U.S. and as though the U.S. public could be calmed down by the likes of Chuck Shumer uselessly waving his hands around as the democratic party turned around and did whatever the hell AIPAC wanted… and the world watched on as Israel committed genocide full tilt and unabated?
Why are you still talking like you represent any kind of majority coalition? …like you represent the nexus of any kind of ideological or political consensus?
You are an irrelevant cynical voice yelling ineffectually into the void.
Agreed. After watching videos of people literally dying in the ICU being told they are passing away soon specifically because they got COVID and didn’t take the vaccine or wear masks and drank horse dewormer or whatever else, and when asked if they were regretful, they all say “no,” I knew we were screwed.
Hell, I had that same thought happen again when I watched parents whose little children died from Measles were asked “do you regret not vaccinating your now dead children?” And they immediately without hesitation said “no.”
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
Yes but, as with any cult, blind faith won’t save them. They’ll go destitute, get sick and die all the same.
It’s a shame it had to come to that but the world will eventually be rid of them anyway. People wishing MAGAtards redeem themselves are focusing on the wrong thing
They are supremely loyal but relatively few enough to be outvoted by the other voters that more casually voted for him. It’s harder for me to grasp, but there are folks that voted for him that wouldn’t be going to his rallies or anything.
Vote republican by default, but a shock could change them.
People who vote for or against the status quo based on how the feel things are going. Trump lost in 2020 in part due to people voting against whoever was in office. Hilary Clinton probably would have lost in 2020 had she won in 2016. Trump won in 2024 in part due to similar sentiment to vote out the current party after the inflation that was likely unavoidable consequence of not collapsing from COVID.
Yes the MAGA cult is unwavering, and they are a huge factor in the GOP primaries and certainly an asset in the general election, but they are not enough to assure an election.
IMO it’s not really the MAGA idiots you need to worry about. It’s the influential people in the republican party who are supporting Trump.
You’re right that the stereotypical trump supporter can’t be dissuaded by economic hardship.
However, the people that thought Trump was going to deliver them never before seen profits through de-regulation can very easily be dissuaded be economic hardship.
An economic hole is forming, and if it’s deep enough and wide enough Trump will be unseated.
As an American I agree, though I have to point out something those of us living this shit nightmare know…
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
They excuse, Sanewash, and pretend it’s part of some plan to make them great.
His supporters? They can soak in their own bloodbaths and say it was Obama’s fault or some Hillary conspiracy.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
This is such a tired narrative.
Yes, yes it will.
It is hurting Trump, Trump has historically low approval ratings, people all across the political spectrum are literally shocked in realtime right now at how fast his approval ratings are tanking. Bernie Sanders and AOC are getting bigger crowds than Bernie even got during his presidential campaign. If the Republican party, Democratic party and the entire system of checks and balances were functioning in the U.S. this would be catastrophic for Trump and for Republicans in general. It still might be if we can manage to survive this.
Go spit your venom somewhere else and stop condescending people for seeing genocide as a redline.
Leftists voted for Kamala, the people who didn’t vote were meaningfully connected to Palestinians or were Arab… in other words this wasn’t political for them this was just a basic litmus test for whether centrist democrats can be trusted not to turn a blind eye to blatant horrific genocide against arab people while at the same time lecturing other countries about human rights.
You yourself just directly chastised someone who decided not to vote for a presidential candidate that was the previous vice president under the president that directly facilitated and provided political backing for a genocide of their people and homeland, do you understand how pathetic you sound? This isn’t about Trump being worse, of course Trump is worse, what is pathetic is that you would in this moment of utter strategic failure on every level by the entrenched corporate leadership of the democratic party to resist against an openly fascist candidate… choose to pick on people adjacent to one of the most horrific genocides in modern history…
Let me re-emphasize to everyone who upvoted this fool, the person I am replying is admitting that they think their best strategy for appealing to more people with their viewpoint is picking on victims of a genocide. Do you really want to throw your lot in with people like this who are so bereft of strategies and visions that can appeal to everyone?.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip
the Gaza strip is only 360 square kilometers, the other bombed places being compared here are far larger areas, and yet there still has been more bombs dropped, almost every single one gleefully handed over by the U.S., on the Gaza strip than these other places.
When will you suffer enough to realize that you were on a tiny, cynical island of people who thought we could ignore the plight of the Palestinian people as if it were an unconnected issue to the U.S. and as though the U.S. public could be calmed down by the likes of Chuck Shumer uselessly waving his hands around as the democratic party turned around and did whatever the hell AIPAC wanted… and the world watched on as Israel committed genocide full tilt and unabated?
Why are you still talking like you represent any kind of majority coalition? …like you represent the nexus of any kind of ideological or political consensus?
You are an irrelevant cynical voice yelling ineffectually into the void.
Agreed. After watching videos of people literally dying in the ICU being told they are passing away soon specifically because they got COVID and didn’t take the vaccine or wear masks and drank horse dewormer or whatever else, and when asked if they were regretful, they all say “no,” I knew we were screwed.
Hell, I had that same thought happen again when I watched parents whose little children died from Measles were asked “do you regret not vaccinating your now dead children?” And they immediately without hesitation said “no.”
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
Yes but, as with any cult, blind faith won’t save them. They’ll go destitute, get sick and die all the same.
It’s a shame it had to come to that but the world will eventually be rid of them anyway. People wishing MAGAtards redeem themselves are focusing on the wrong thing
They are supremely loyal but relatively few enough to be outvoted by the other voters that more casually voted for him. It’s harder for me to grasp, but there are folks that voted for him that wouldn’t be going to his rallies or anything.
There’s a lot of folks who are either.:
Vote republican by default, but a shock could change them.
People who vote for or against the status quo based on how the feel things are going. Trump lost in 2020 in part due to people voting against whoever was in office. Hilary Clinton probably would have lost in 2020 had she won in 2016. Trump won in 2024 in part due to similar sentiment to vote out the current party after the inflation that was likely unavoidable consequence of not collapsing from COVID.
Yes the MAGA cult is unwavering, and they are a huge factor in the GOP primaries and certainly an asset in the general election, but they are not enough to assure an election.
…presuming that quasi-representative elections happen in 2026 and 2028, which are by no means assured…
IMO it’s not really the MAGA idiots you need to worry about. It’s the influential people in the republican party who are supporting Trump.
You’re right that the stereotypical trump supporter can’t be dissuaded by economic hardship.
However, the people that thought Trump was going to deliver them never before seen profits through de-regulation can very easily be dissuaded be economic hardship.
An economic hole is forming, and if it’s deep enough and wide enough Trump will be unseated.