Who said anyone was happy about that? Biden made the wrong choice. But to wring your hands and pretend you’ll have a choice that isn’t Trump or Biden next November is completely ignorant of how elections work in the US.
Yes. He did. Choices can lose you votes. Demanding them doesn’t get them back. Pointing out the other option and being like “he’s worse now shut up and be happy” doesn’t do it either.
I prefer Biden to Trump. I’ll vote for him. But I accept the reality that “not Trump and shut up” isn’t good enough for some people. People whose votes we need. The options for the country are very likely gonna be Trump or Biden.
But as far as I see it, the options for the Democratic Party are as follows: Do better or lose.
I’m worried that they’re not willing to change at all and would prefer to lose, even if that means Trump again.
Really because the ones I see not changing are the white cynics who are so high on their privilege that they seriously need it explained to them why “not trump” is fucking good enough no other explanation needed. Especially after Dobbs.
Fuckin’ white self proclaimed revolutionaries talk a shitton about solidarity then don’t waste a second to demand bribes for theirs soon as literally the bare minimum gets asked for to vote just so fucking Caligula Jackson doesn’t get to strip everyone else’s rights more.
Fuckers throw Letters from Birmingham around like gospel and do no self reflection about MLK being up to his limit with white folks who swear they’re for civil rights then don’t do any of the work to advance the cause.
Here, I’ll quote the portion of my comment that you ignored because you were in such a screaming hurry to pontificate:
I prefer Biden to Trump. I’ll vote for him.
But yeah, don’t let that put a damper on your self-righteousness. The party is owed everyone’s votes no matter what genocides they fund, and even people who overtly say they’re voting the way you want for the reasons you state are gonna get a earful of centrist karening.
Because god fucking forbid the party adapts to a political reality when we’re at risk of falling to fascism.
He is also walking a tight rope attempting to defuse it. He got the border open with Egypt and humanitarian aid in. He got “humanitarian pauses” in place of a cease-fire because Bibby won’t allow it.
You don’t need to walk a tightrope on genocide. We give them the weapons they use to kill civilians and shield them from international consequences. We’re not an uninvolved party trying to influence an equal, we have power.
That’s an absurdly simplistic view that you can only afford to have because there are no consequences to you having it. Were you actually in charge and had briefings explaining the complex history and political situation then you’d very likely find yourself realising it’s not as simple as you wish.
“We’re acting like Republicans on this because the situation is just too complex for your puny mind to comprehend.” - Centrists, about every fucking thing.
You forgot people who are clutching their pearls over Biden’s support of Israel and calling him a fascist because of it.
Some people aren’t as happy with genocide as you think they should be.
Who said anyone was happy about that? Biden made the wrong choice. But to wring your hands and pretend you’ll have a choice that isn’t Trump or Biden next November is completely ignorant of how elections work in the US.
It may not be Trump or Biden, but it will certainly be regressive shitheel or Biden. This is not a pro-Biden statement, just reality.
Yes. He did. Choices can lose you votes. Demanding them doesn’t get them back. Pointing out the other option and being like “he’s worse now shut up and be happy” doesn’t do it either.
I prefer Biden to Trump. I’ll vote for him. But I accept the reality that “not Trump and shut up” isn’t good enough for some people. People whose votes we need. The options for the country are very likely gonna be Trump or Biden.
But as far as I see it, the options for the Democratic Party are as follows: Do better or lose.
I’m worried that they’re not willing to change at all and would prefer to lose, even if that means Trump again.
Really because the ones I see not changing are the white cynics who are so high on their privilege that they seriously need it explained to them why “not trump” is fucking good enough no other explanation needed. Especially after Dobbs.
Fuckin’ white self proclaimed revolutionaries talk a shitton about solidarity then don’t waste a second to demand bribes for theirs soon as literally the bare minimum gets asked for to vote just so fucking Caligula Jackson doesn’t get to strip everyone else’s rights more.
Fuckers throw Letters from Birmingham around like gospel and do no self reflection about MLK being up to his limit with white folks who swear they’re for civil rights then don’t do any of the work to advance the cause.
Here, I’ll quote the portion of my comment that you ignored because you were in such a screaming hurry to pontificate:
But yeah, don’t let that put a damper on your self-righteousness. The party is owed everyone’s votes no matter what genocides they fund, and even people who overtly say they’re voting the way you want for the reasons you state are gonna get a earful of centrist karening.
Because god fucking forbid the party adapts to a political reality when we’re at risk of falling to fascism.
He is also walking a tight rope attempting to defuse it. He got the border open with Egypt and humanitarian aid in. He got “humanitarian pauses” in place of a cease-fire because Bibby won’t allow it.
You don’t need to walk a tightrope on genocide. We give them the weapons they use to kill civilians and shield them from international consequences. We’re not an uninvolved party trying to influence an equal, we have power.
That’s an absurdly simplistic view that you can only afford to have because there are no consequences to you having it. Were you actually in charge and had briefings explaining the complex history and political situation then you’d very likely find yourself realising it’s not as simple as you wish.
“We’re acting like Republicans on this because the situation is just too complex for your puny mind to comprehend.” - Centrists, about every fucking thing.