Instead let’s have more light rail and electric buses please.
No shit. If you need to move people just look at where the most people are moved… airports. Every major airport has buses and rail in and out. There’s no reason for cities to be built around individual transport when individuals are rarely transporting more than themselves.
Except for Detroit. That’s because putting in light rail down the middle of the highway that could support it between the airport and Detroit city proper would actually make sense and we don’t like that around here. Also, the Motor City hates bus services. Am I salty? Perhaps.
Detroit will never rise above “COMPLETE HOLE” status until they unfuck public transportation. I’d like to visit but I don’t drive so what’s the point? See a five block area around downtown?
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Oh, you think that’s bad? Check the Texrail map. It’s the light rail line for Fort Worth, Texas.
It’s literally one line that goes from downtown to DFW airport. There’s a planned expansion that will push it slightly further further west to the medical district… in downtown.
And don’t even get me started on the bus line intervals. The one that’s closest to me runs HOURLY. It may as well not even fucking exist, and I think that’s the idea.
After going to Denver and seeing the rail system and having so much potential squandered was upsetting. Just extend that thing down to Colorado Springs at least. It’d do so much good ans almost certainly pay for itself quickly. They built it up for absolutely nothing.
As a disabled dude, let’s have both. I can’t make the short trip to my nearby bus stop, this would be taxes that I would never benefit from. But personal cars or services like these, I can make it down my driveway.
It blows my mind how many people, when talking about transportation, just completely forget that not totally-capable people exist. I guess we are all supposed to stay in one place and never go anywhere due to a physical disability.
I’ll happily vote for taxes to enhance public transport, if everyone votes to keep services like these also improving and growing, especially in areas where municipal services are lacking or completely unavailable. Uber and Lyft were my only access to restaurants and groceries for a time. Shit gets expensive, but it’s better than literally having to beg friends to get my groceries every week.
Just don’t forget about those who can’t enjoy the infrastructure.
It is like a bunch of the self-driving companies are trying to kill the tech by making the public turn against them.
Nah, it’s just that the “fail fast” process doesn’t work or more accurately isn’t acceptable for critical life-or-death systems.
I was stoked for them to get here. My entire life between my house and my kid’s school is inundated in self driving cars. I live it. I fucking hate them. And elderly people in Teslas.
There’s a good solution here: walkable, mixed use neighborhoods.
Self driving cars are just going to make traffic worse, by increasing people’s tolerance to traffic.
Who would do that
I was in SF recently and got stuck behind a self driving car that was trying to turn down a closed street. The street had a police barrier up and it just sat there with its blinker on waiting for the street to open up. Meanwhile, everyone behind it is stuck there waiting for it to make a turn that it would never be able to make.
Eventually, after sitting in traffic for ten minutes, not knowing what was up, cars in front of me started to move around it and then I realized what was going on. I understand why people hate these things.
To be fair, I had a similar thing happen a human driver the other day. Except there was no barricade…they just wouldn’t turn. They finally made the left turn on the fourth yellow lol.
Anyone have the footage?
They Streisand Effect’ed the fuck out of themselves
I keep looking but can’t find it. I keep just finding people saying the pedestrian was hit by a vehicle with a driver and thrown under a driverless car which spokepeople are saying tried to stop as fast as possible to minimize damages.
If the autonomous car reacted correctly then why wouldn’t they release the video which corroborates this?
They did, I’m sorry that isn’t what the article wanted to show. That is what we call propaganda.
If you find facts thay differ from that let me know.
It’s the DMV claiming that the footage was withheld, the article was amended to include Cruise’s denial. The facts are in dispute. But what is beyond doubt is that it is the DMV making the claim, not a random journalist. The article includes the Order of Suspension from the DMV citing the reason:
On October 3, 2023. representatives ofthe Department of Motor Vehicles and the California Highway Patrol met with representatives from Cruise to discuss the accident. During the meeting. the department was shown video footage of the accident captured by the AV’s onboard cameras. The video footage presented to the department ended with the AV initial stop following the hard-braking ‘maneuver. Footage ofthe subsequent movement ofthe AV to perform a pullover maneuver was not shown to the department and Cruise did not disclose that any additional movement of the vehicle had occurred after the initial stop ofthe vehicle. The department only learnedof the AV’s subsequent movement via discussion with another government agency. The department requested Cruise provide a copy of the video with the additional footage, which was received by the department on October 13. 2023.
I know that boots are real tasty and all but you’re spending your free time lying to defend a corporation and that is just fucking weird behaviour.
They did [release the video]
Source or link? If you mean provided to the DMV, I wouldn’t call that released.
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yeah I can see that, but why not release the video to the public?
Something tells me they would get shit on for privacy reasons if they did something like that.
you’re right, didn’t think of that
I would guess the autonomous vehicle is safer then the hit & run driver who threw the pedestrian under that AV.
I live in the Bay Area and mostly ignored these developments because I primarily stick to East Bay. But as my new job has me going to SF on a semi-regular basis, I can’t help but be mildly afraid of getting taken out by an AV. Gdi.
When DMV asked for footage of that part of the incident, Cruise provided it.
So they were a little sneaky in not presenting all the evidence up front, but they didn’t really withhold it in as bad a way as the title implies.
This is why we have “guilt by omission”
Yes but for that to stick there has to be a clear obligation to present everything. Frankly, I don’t think they lost their licence because of the omission, but because of what happened - this article is just trying to make the story more dramatic. Even the title subtly implies this, the licence wasn’t revoked “because” it withheld footage, but “after”.
Yes but for that to stick there has to be a clear obligation to present everything
Anybody reasonable reading the article understands the obligation is there.
Yeah a reasonable person would decide that on the balance of probabilities here, but we’re talking about the process through which a licence is revoked, which needs to be more concrete.
The actual document from the DMV lists the omission as one of the reasons.
During the meeting on October 3. 2023. Cruise failed to disclose that the AV executed a pullover maneuver that increased the risk of, and may have caused, further injury to a pedestrian. Cruise’s omission hinders the ability of the department to effectively and timely evaluate the safe operation of Cruise’s vehicles and puts the safety of the public at risk
