• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    New Trump voters go back to Trump: dems fault for alienating them (or worse, progressives fault for pushing dems to be progressive)

    Progressive voters staying home or voting green: progressive voters fault for not being ethically flexible

    This is why leftists acknowledge liberals as being adversarial, bud. Dems aren’t interested in progress, they’re interested in maintaining their centrist consensus.

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      2 months ago

      I couldn’t disagree with you more if I wanted to.

      Bernie Sanders isn’t interested in progress?

      AOC isn’t interested in progress?

      Ilhan Omar, Mark Pocan, Ayanna Presley, Rashida Tlaib? Not progressive? Not interested in fighting for minorities?

      Maybe I’m just misunderstanding what you’re saying here, but your take smells a lot like “hello fellow teens, let’s go burn down some shit”, “oh look there’s a pallets of bricks here at this protest and it’s almossst dark time!”

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        2 months ago

        Lmao you think Bernie Sanders, AOC or Ilhan Omar are representative of the democratic party? Sanders was quite famously fucked by the party (twice), and Ilhan Omar is currently getting fucked, too. AOC is only barely more friendly with the party, but not until after she walked back her open support for Palestinan liberation and did a livestream with a Zionist AIPAC rep to explain why Israel has a right to defend itself.

        The democratic party relies on the support of capitalist and reactionary interests. It’s why they fund primary challenges to progressive congressmen and their extremist reactionary opponents. They’re happy to include progressives in their caucus as long as they maintain their ability to govern with a center-right lean.

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          2 months ago

          I’m just not going to dismiss the entire fucking democratic party under a shallow judgement of specific actions taken by specific people

          Pretty simple, and should be a familiar sentiment you should hold if you’re actually progressive, ironically.

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        2 months ago

        Progressives aren’t liberals.

        They’re to the left of liberals.

        Stop gaslighting.