Not a chance lol

Most americans don’t know a single thing about China, but almost every one of them would tell you that it’s a anti-free speech hellscape.

The only thing that matters is that it originated in China. Nothing else they do could change the opinion of the american public.

Meta is already a willing partner of the USSD, they don’t need to ‘make an example’.

OK, so lets say they moderated it the same way here as they did in China… All good now?

I don’t think it matters at all how tiktok is actually being managed or moderated in the US - Americans simply do not trust anything Chinese.

The cold war never ended.

I honestly cannot tell if this is parody.

I’d imagine operating a quantum computer for blanket surveillance is cost-prohibitive, but yea, if you’ve given them reason to look at you just assume they have the means to break your encryption.

This is the problem with trying to follow decorum against a fascist.

Well the word you used was should

Nor should they.

Errr, what now?

maybe it’s because i’ve been watching too much of the office lately but I expected you to end this comment with:

But those reasons aren’t nefarious

Yes, famously anti-capitalist Liberalism…

This article is excellent, even if many here will be offended by the headline and refuse to read further.

This part struck me:

In the United States and elsewhere (think of French President Emmanuel Macron’s disastrous electoral machinations), the liberal centrism or ​“progressive neoliberalism” that casts itself as the bulwark against fascism is proving to be anything but. Not only has it contributed to the social miseries upon which reactionary politics feeds — mass incarceration, predatory finance, imperialist war and the rollback of social welfare have all been bipartisan projects in the past half-century — but it stands revealed as a failed brand, kept alive primarily by the investments of party elites and donors, but also by what historian Adam Tooze calls its profound narcissism. This delusional conviction that it is a historical force for progress, sanity and the good makes elite liberal politicians slip easily into paternalism and condescension—something many voters find more offensive than direct insults.

Edit, Jesus what a banger. The last paragraph is perfect, too

An anti-fascist politics does not require constantly decrying the fascism of your opponent (which may prove numbing or alienating) but it certainly has to cleave to a different logic than that which ​“depends on the moment” or on electoral calculus alone. It needs to discover ways to not just make emancipatory ideas popular — fortunately, many of them already are — but to weave them into a project rooted in everyday needs. To this end, liberal centrism is not just useless, it is an obstacle. It demands endless moral and political sacrifices from leftists and progressives, while not even serving as a decent vehicle for the kind of reformist compromises we might expect from representative politics. When existential issues are on the agenda, from genocide to the mounting climate catastrophe and the manifold crises it will bring, betting on liberalism is a fool’s errand.

I’m not much for word games, thanks.

I just want to hear you say that votes cast not for your party aren’t legitimate votes

Never what I said, nor intended

voting for a 3rd party doesn’t count

Whoomp, there it is.

I just want to hear you say that votes cast not for your party aren’t legitimate votes

Hmmm

I voted third party.

Read it again.

So did OP.

It worked for some democratic voters, but not for the 14 million others.

I do consider that “game theory” voting (a) results in a definite single rational course of action for this election for anyone who favors democracy or left-leaning policies. But I also, it (b) is not be the endgame and just a mitigation until we prioritize ranked choice voting and other structural reform.

This is fine if there was any indication that the underlying problem of fascism in the US is going to be addressed by the incoming administration, or if you believe it is addressed by voting against it. The problem is that many of us don’t believe either to be the case, especially when the current campaign strategy has been to grant concessions to those nationalist solutions while turning away from socialist ones.

When neither of the most likely outcomes address the continued growth of fascism inside the US, the ‘game theory’ of electoral politics suddenly seems like a naieve indulgence more than any kind of solution, even a temporary one.