• oakey66@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What’s the difference when the IDF is fully providing support for their extreme acts.

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      2 months ago

      This needs said over and over.

      The settlement of the West Bank used to be a slow walk of annexation. Now, it’s not even slow.

      The Israeli civilian government is actively annexing the entire region. They are rounding up native residents and putting them into interment camps. They are openly discussing expanding their activity into their northern neighboring country, Lebanon. The military is serving as shock troops for the naked displacement of locals. The IDF is conducting air strikes on a totally defenseless demilitarized neighboring country that is already under total military occupation. While using a separate, unrelated war as a brazenly cynical excuse to just start attacking anyone whose land they happen to want next.

      Thes sanctions are a band aid applied to a mortar wound to the chest. This is so wildly disproportionate to the needs of the situation that I genuinely feel it is far more offensive than doing nothing.

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        2 months ago

        It’s really, really not. If the people of the US accepted the fact that their political system is just one big fraud, then maybe they’d stop pinning their hopes for change on it and consider alternatives that may actually yield some success.

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      2 months ago

      Maybe? But I am not that cynical. I think the answer is actually both easier and more complicated. The US’ public position has always (or at least for a long time) been support for a two state solution. And I don’t think the Democrats are capable enough of convincingly lying for this to be untrue. Someone would have leaked something etc. Plus it plays into their compromise fetish. And to satisfy that it helps to actually have some land for the second state left. That’s the easy part.

      The complicated part is in understanding why they keep sending weapons. I think Dems have genuinely convinced themself that if they didn’t arm Israel, Hamas would wipe them out. And for a two state solution it helps to keep the first state around. So they keep sending weapons but they also want everybody to know that they are really disappointed whenever Israel uses them to kill civilians. Plus Biden thinks he can push Netanjahu more effectively if he stays on his good side. That’s the “hug Bibi” strategy. I think we have more than enough evidence that the strategy doesn’t work.

      Also there is a difference between “enough weapons to level Gaza” and “enough weapons to secure the border”. And maybe someone should tell the people in charge of weapon shipments.

      • small44@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Sorry, you are just giving excuses. It’s crazy how we worry about the colonizer rather than the colonized. As for the two state solution the us want one that benefits israel the most.