Classic twisting of the thumb screws. The prisoners dilemma is functional of how trustworthy your co-conspirator is.
And its safe to say when it comes to people who seriously would consider trying to overthrow an election for personal gain, you cant trust any of em, so of course everyone is gonna crack. 10/10 this will be fun to watch
Except they’ve been achieving the optimal prisoner’s dilemma outcome until now by protecting each other. Idk, I won’t believe he’ll flip until he does. For all I know, this is just a way to plead for Trump’s help for funding legal fees out in the open.
It’s easy to stay in line while it’s working. The moment you are actually in court looking at years in prison, that’s when the dilemma really becomes tough to stick to.
Also, in this scenario, there is no guarantee that everyone staying in line will mean they get away. Which makes the calculus much much more complicated as opposed to when it’s just trying to avoid an indictment all together
Also, there’s an increased pressure to not be the first one to flip, but once someone flips, it’ll be a race to flip ASAP.
If you’re the first one to flip, you’ll get attacked by MAGA folks. However, they’re less likely to attack the second or third flipper.
Prosecutors will only take so many flips, though. What can the 10th person tell them that the first 9 haven’t? So if you’re waiting and someone flips, you want to flip early while prosecutors are still willing to make a deal.
I think we’ll see one person flip and then a mad dash for others to flip. They night even wait for the expedited cases. If those go badly, the rest of the bunch will be flipping as fast as they can shout “give us a deal please!”
It’s not really a Prisoner’s Dilemma when one prisoner doesn’t have the opportunity to flip, though - it’s not like if Trump agrees to testify against Meadows they’re going to reduce his sentence.
Eh. If fuckface actually had receipts and could stop incriminating himself on social media and television for even five minutes, he probably could. Putting a former POTUS in jail is a logistical and optical nightmare and Democrats would love a “symbolic” victory that results in trump on house arrest for the rest of his life.
Like, there is a reason Ford pardoned Nixon immediately.
But trump is, and has continuously been, too stupid to even do that. If he had ended it with “there are good people on both sides and we love you but please stop trying to murder pence” then none of this would be happening. Basically every prosecution wouldn’t want the smoke that comes with this and would have been content with effective exile.
But trump is, and has continuously been, too stupid to even do that. If he had ended it with “there are good people on both sides and we love you but please stop trying to murder pence” then none of this would be happening.
That would have no bearing on the New York trial, the documents trial or the Georgia elections trial.
Classic twisting of the thumb screws. The prisoners dilemma is functional of how trustworthy your co-conspirator is.
And its safe to say when it comes to people who seriously would consider trying to overthrow an election for personal gain, you cant trust any of em, so of course everyone is gonna crack. 10/10 this will be fun to watch
Except they’ve been achieving the optimal prisoner’s dilemma outcome until now by protecting each other. Idk, I won’t believe he’ll flip until he does. For all I know, this is just a way to plead for Trump’s help for funding legal fees out in the open.
I don’t think there are any funds.
Wouldn’t that be marvelous if it turned out the RNC funding was one gigantic ponzi scheme and all the money was going to pay-off Trumps debts?
Not really that far from the truth relatively speaking
It’s easy to stay in line while it’s working. The moment you are actually in court looking at years in prison, that’s when the dilemma really becomes tough to stick to.
Also, in this scenario, there is no guarantee that everyone staying in line will mean they get away. Which makes the calculus much much more complicated as opposed to when it’s just trying to avoid an indictment all together
Also, there’s an increased pressure to not be the first one to flip, but once someone flips, it’ll be a race to flip ASAP.
If you’re the first one to flip, you’ll get attacked by MAGA folks. However, they’re less likely to attack the second or third flipper.
Prosecutors will only take so many flips, though. What can the 10th person tell them that the first 9 haven’t? So if you’re waiting and someone flips, you want to flip early while prosecutors are still willing to make a deal.
I think we’ll see one person flip and then a mad dash for others to flip. They night even wait for the expedited cases. If those go badly, the rest of the bunch will be flipping as fast as they can shout “give us a deal please!”
It’s not really a Prisoner’s Dilemma when one prisoner doesn’t have the opportunity to flip, though - it’s not like if Trump agrees to testify against Meadows they’re going to reduce his sentence.
Eh. If fuckface actually had receipts and could stop incriminating himself on social media and television for even five minutes, he probably could. Putting a former POTUS in jail is a logistical and optical nightmare and Democrats would love a “symbolic” victory that results in trump on house arrest for the rest of his life.
Like, there is a reason Ford pardoned Nixon immediately.
But trump is, and has continuously been, too stupid to even do that. If he had ended it with “there are good people on both sides and we love you but please stop trying to murder pence” then none of this would be happening. Basically every prosecution wouldn’t want the smoke that comes with this and would have been content with effective exile.
That would have no bearing on the New York trial, the documents trial or the Georgia elections trial.
New York I could see still going after him.
But all the election trials would likely have faded away. Stern warnings from up top that “we are dropping this”, a focus on the underlings, etc.
Why would they have faded away? He still broke the law in Georgia. And the documents scandal has nothing to do with the election.
Because the law only matters to the extent that people are willing to enforce the law.
And we have a long history of “We are done with this. it is time to heal” and pushing back on the rare occasions prosecutors do anything of value.
Again, why would that have any bearing on the documents case? That has nothing to do with the election whatsoever.
So bribery or extortion? That fits.