JD Vance, no fan of gender-neutral bathrooms, was photographed in his high school yearbook next to three girls posing in front of urinals in a bathroom during his senior year.

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    He supports criminalising people of the ‘wrong’ gender using the wrong bathroom.

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      That really isn’t what’s happening in the photo, as I’ve said in more detail elsewhere in the thread, and pretending that’s what’s being depicted makes the attack look foolish and desperate.

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        I see girls in a boys’ bathroom for a joke picture? Is that not what it is? That’s what he’s advocating to criminalise.

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          No, what he advocates is legislation that forbids trans women from using women’s bathrooms. Women in women’s bathrooms is what he’s arguing against, his problem is that some of those women are transgender and his platform is one of virulent transphobia and persecution.

          To argue this demonstrates some element of hypocrisy requires one to say they see transgender people as their assigned gender at birth and not their current gender.

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            All bathroom bills mention you need to use the bathroom of the gender assigned to you at birth and don’t mention trans status at all. Those bills target anyone that goes into the ‘wrong’ bathroom and they would see what’s in this picture as a crime as well.

            State Reps. Beth Lear, R-Galena, and Adam Bird, R-New Richmond, introduced House Bill 183 which would require Ohio K-12 schools and colleges to mandate that students could only use the bathroom or locker room that matches their sex assigned at birth. It would also prohibit schools from allowing students to share overnight accommodations with the opposite sex.

            https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/04/11/transgender-student-bathroom-ban-bill-passes-out-of-ohio-house-higher-education-committee/

            Under this new Ohio bill, what’s in the picture would be a crime.

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                Of course it is targeting trans people, I wasn’t saying anything else. I don’t understand what you’re misunderstanding here. JD Vance supports bathroom bills that will bar people from going into the ‘wrong’ bathroom, but he was totally ok with it back in high school is the point we’re making.

                And obviously a side effect of those kinds of laws is that they affect all of us. Make a mistake and accidentally walk into the wrong bathroom? If the wrong cop is around you could be arrested and branded a pervert.

                The gender sports bills are the same, now some pervert coach from the opposing team can demand to inspect everyone’s genitals, that doesn’t just affect trans people, it affects every woman.

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                No one is pretending anything, and no one is claiming these laws aren’t specifically targeting trans people, of course they are. What they are claiming is that the same law would apply to what is being depicted in the photo, which is true.

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                Dude, what? Do you think trans adults just materialize fully formed? They’re attempting to criminalize their ability to understand who they are before graduating high school. It’s fucking insane, and if you actually cared about them you’d easily see how these things are inextricably connected.

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            Yeah honestly I dont think this photo is anything. Vance is a piece of shit, and we have plenty of evidence. A photo of people in the bathroom that was clearly set up as a bit isn’t really demonstrating anything here

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            Where did the trans stuff even come from, my dude? No mentioned it until you - weirdly - brought it up.