• bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        Unlike student loans which persist through bankruptcy, most attorney fees incurred before filing bankruptcy will be treated as unsecured debt and eliminated in any consumer bankruptcy case. It’s a ridiculous double standard.

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          Not sure where you’re going with this. Student loans have a special carve out preventing them from being ejected during bankruptcy.

          The solution isn’t to make them everything like student loans but to remove the special carve out for student loans.

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            I don’t agree. In most cases the loan shouldn’t exist in the first place or should be far cheaper if they do. It’s not even a debate whether we want an educated workforce or not. It’s really just that the wealthy don’t want to pay taxes to cover the cost even though they are the main beneficiaries.

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            Exactly, the rich can be buried in legal fees and then can get out of it by declaring bankruptcy, meanwhile people who legitimately can’t make ends meet due to being buried in student loans have no way to get out from it. Rudy’s already selling his apartment in NYC for 6 million and one can guess the money from that sale will be protected if he declares bankruptcy.

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              Nope.

              His primary residency would be protected in bankruptcy.

              Selling it turns it into liquid assets.

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                  Now that they are in big boy court, the lawyers are charging massive upfront retainers.

                  I think Trump’s was a couple million.

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    Not entirely convinced by this specific example - he lost the civil case by default because [people think] responding to discovery might reveal things that he doesn’t want the criminal case to know about.

    Deliberately incurring a fine in one case to try and avoid jail in another is a bit different than not being able to mount a defense.

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        Yeah. They know what they’re doing. They’ve played the game their entire lives. The gullable low tier lackies might be different though.

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          Yeah, I feel like so much of Trump’s 4 indictments now will come down to the loyalty of the others indicted.

          If they finally wake up and smell the coffee, realize that he only cares about himself, and that their loyalty gets them nothing from him, and they agree to cooperate with prosecutors, that’s best case for them and the state/US, and the American people.

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            The time for cooperation has ended, as far as the prosecution is concerned. None of the indicted co-conspirators are being offered the option to rat.

            This strongly suggests the prosecution feels their case is already ironclad against those indicted. Since they have devices with private messages on them, ratting someone out may be completely unnecessary.

            As always, friendly reminder that if you’re going to commit crimes, do not text, mail, email, or otherwise put down in writing that you are knowingly committing crimes.

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      Any prosecutor worth their salt will see this move and immediately move to ammend their discovery motion for whatever the civil trial would’ve asked for, too, for the exact reason you listed.

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    Turns out the MAGA firehose of bullshit goes appropriately limp and useless in court.

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      All it confirms is that they’re corrupt and stupid, like their supporters.

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          Have a compensation upvote. People need to understand /s without having to write it out.

          That having been said …your wording could have been a bit more sarcastic to let the reader know.