President Joe Biden says he will not supply offensive weapons that Israel can use to launch an all-out assault on Rafah — the last major Hamas stronghold in Gaza — over concern for the well-being of the more than 1 million civilians sheltering there.
        • modifier@lemmy.ca
          221·
          8 months ago

          You’re the one making the extraordinary claim that this decision had ‘nothing’ to do with massive, nation-wide, broadly covered protests occurring in a hotly contested election year amongst a key demographic.

          So, prove it.

            • modifier@lemmy.ca
              132·
              8 months ago

              I’ll save us both a lot of frustration and wasted time and simply refer you back to my first comment.

                • modifier@lemmy.ca
                  121·
                  8 months ago

                  That’s just it though. Neither of us can point to a causal chain of events conclusively proving or disproving our belief.

                  The difference is, my belief is fully compatible with the mountain of circumstantial evidence mentioned in my above comment, whereas your belief requires one to completely ignore all of it.

                  So you’re going to look at a decision in the heat of an enormously momentous election year, made by a president who is running for reelection, amidst numerous, widespread, widely covered protests made largely by a demographic that is absolutely critical to this candidate-president winning said election…You’re going to look at all that and say it had ‘nothing to do’ with those same protests.

                  Not, ‘there were other factors’, nope, you confidently assert the protests had nothing to do with it and demand proof of a suggestion to the contrary.

                  Once again, check your tether.

                  You start distorting reality, and it gets tough to stop, by nature.

    • WraithGear@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      8 months ago

      That’s a tough statement to back up. Especially considering the scale of the protests, and Biden’s refusal to speak against isreal until this point.

    • null@slrpnk.net
      21·
      8 months ago

      Prove it

      You can’t prove a negative

      You aren’t claiming a negative.

      Logically, it was caused by something. You are claiming that the something that caused it was not the protests.

      The only way you can accurately make that claim is with the knowledge of what did cause it.

      So prove your claim that the thing that caused this was not the protests, but something else instead.

      If you don’t do that, you’re admitting to arguing in bad faith.

        • null@slrpnk.net
          1·
          8 months ago

          I sad it protests did not cause his actions.

          Again, the only way you can accurately make that claim is with the knowledge of what did cause it.

          So prove your claim that the thing that caused this was not the protests, but something else instead.

          What should have been said, was

          Agreed. And what you should have said was “There’s no evidence that the protests caused his actions.” But you didn’t, you instead made a falsifiable claim, and refuse to back it up with proof. Making you a hypocrite.

          I’m done with this discussion

          Better luck next time, then.