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Wilshire@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Supreme Court waves off Kari Lake lawsuit over electronic voting

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Wilshire@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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The Supreme Court brushed aside a lawsuit Monday from Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake challenging the use of electronic voting machines in Arizona.
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    There should be some penalty for filing lawsuits like this that have zero merit. Like, pay the fees that you caused the taxpayers.

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      I think that’s the anti-SLAPP laws but I don’t know if they apply here.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Supreme Court brushed aside a lawsuit Monday from Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake challenging the use of electronic voting machines in Arizona.

    Lake, who filed the lawsuit during her failed campaign for governor in 2022, challenged whether the state’s electronic voting machines assured “a fair and accurate vote.” Two lower courts dismissed the suit, finding that Lake and former Republican state lawmaker Mark Finchem had not been harmed in a way that allowed them to sue.

    Calling the precise nature of Lake’s claim “not clear,” the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals said the lawsuit was based on speculative concerns that the machines could be hacked.

    Although Lake and Finchem cited “opinions by purported experts on manipulation risk” in the lawsuit, they did “not contend that any electronic tabulation machine in Arizona has ever been hacked,” the appeals court said.

    On appeal, the court continued, lawyers for Lake “conceded that their arguments were limited to potential future hacking, and not based on any past harm.”

    Lake accused the Supreme Court of “institutional inertia” on election issues after intervening in the 2000 election in the Bush v. Gore case, even though the court this term is heavily involved in several appeals involving former President Donald Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee.


    The original article contains 262 words, the summary contains 211 words. Saved 19%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    That’s actually too bad. The electronic voting machine are laughably easy to hack.

    Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/an-11-year-old-changed-election-results-on-a-replica-florida-state-website-in-under-10-minutes

    That’s a amateur untrained kid. Really ask yourself, if you had practice and a demo machine, how fast could you swap a hard drive and replace the QA sticker. 15 seconds / 20 seconds?

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      There was an entire lawsuit about how they were actually not easy to hack. Fox News lost it. But do provide your sources.

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        Everyones favorite source - “trust me, bro.”

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          Well then don’t trust me.

          https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170339114/fox-news-settles-blockbuster-defamation-lawsuit-with-dominion-voting-systems

          https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/fox-news-dominion-trial-04-18-23/index.html

          https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/18/business/fox-news-dominion-trial-settlement

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox_News_Network

          This is why our democracy is in danger. So yeah, trust my sources, bro?

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            I wasn’t meaning that you had no sources…I was referring to the asshat you replied to.

            I did a poorly job of communicating stuff

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              FWIW I thought it was very clear.

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        If they aren’t easy to hack then how are Repubs committing so much election fraud on ES&S machines?

        https://www.propublica.org/article/the-market-for-voting-machines-is-broken-this-company-has-thrived-in-it

        These are the machines Kemp used to commit election fraud. The ones that “lost” the records. Georgia switched to Dominion in 2018 and suddenly 2020 is the first year it wasn’t solid red.

        https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-dominion-ess-election-fraud/

        Lindsey Graham committed election fraud in Georgia. Did he also commit fraud in his own state? How does such a lickspittle worm polling below his opponent end up winning 2020 with double the votes he had in 2014?

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          Its weird you’re using Graham as an example, considering he threw out mail in ballots. Do you think an electronic voting machine company can prevent that kind of fraud?

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          Also the machines in your linked article are ES&S machines, not Dominion machines. That is a completely different manufacturer than the one in the lawsuit I was referring to.

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            That was their implication: the ES&S machines were compromised supported by the fact that after switching to Dominion in 2018 the state was no longer solid red in 2020.

            I cannot claim a deeper knowledge either way on this, only wanted to clarify that for you.

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              Its just confusing throwing a competitor in there. Like yeah, they make voting machines too, but that doesn’t mean they’re made the same or to the same quality.

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      Is the Kraken in the room with us now?

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      “I make up facts that help my party stay relevant!”

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        The Republiclown way!!

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      They were laughably easy to hack. If you go back to the early 2000’s, you can read up all about the Diebold voting machines and how vulnerable they were. Plus, it didn’t help perceptions that Diebold’s CEO was a major donator to GWB’s campaign:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions

      Since then, many current Voting Machine companies have taken the advice of their detractors, and have worked to increase security on their devices while also providing a verifiable paper trail. (They also saw what happened to Diebold, who lost so many contracts due to the bad publicity that they had to let themselves be acquired in order to purge that name). The companies were basically shamed into doing a better job by all the voting security researchers (many of which are highlighted in that Wiki article).

      The voting process is so much more secure and trustworthy than it was 20 years ago, mainly because of all the people paying attention to it.

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      Yeah. Pity all the fraud that the republicans found was engineered by the republicans.

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