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    10 months ago

    Voting seemingly cannot change a system that produces results where a superpower is owned by billionaires and genocide is supported if it enriches the military industrial complex

    Which means that the working class seemingly must consider other avenues of structural reform. What alternatives remain?

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        10 months ago

        Voters can vote for Biden and maintain the stagnant and declining United States. Which will prolong our declining living standards and eroding global power

        Or they can vote for Trump, who will destroy the United States, and the West along with it.

        Neither is an option that will improve conditions for normal Americans. They can experience obliteration over 30 years, or experience it all at once. Either way, their living standards will continue to decline, as they have for the past 30 years. No option will ever be presented in the voting booth that will reverse our national decline.

        Given that, what is to be done?

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          10 months ago

          Every second you buy that avoids violent revolution and authoritian rule is worth it in the blood not shed.

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            Every second you buy that avoids violent revolution

            How was the United States created?

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              The ballot or the bullet. You act like America winning the revolution was the end of our trouble. The revolution did not end slavery. The revolution did not create equality. It secured the colonies for a new imperialistic super power.

              Yes, if there is no ballot, then it is the bullet.

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                You act like America winning the revolution was the end of our trouble

                I’m saying the opposite. We are a country born of violent revolution that was built on slavery, genocide, and imperialism

                Currently, we are owned by oligarchs. They will not permit us to use elections to save the working class. Which is why we can prolong our demise with Biden, or experience our obliteration immediately with Trump. There is no better option and there never will be.

                Given that, what should the working class do?

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                    I’ve told you

                    No you haven’t.

                    Voting for Biden will not improve conditions for the working class. Voting for Trump will destroy the country

                    So what is to be done?