A few days ago, the U.S. government sanctioned A/I for supporting “extreme far-left antifa terrorists”. If you didn’t know, A/I is an antifascist and anticapitalist group based in Italy, and they host a lot of services (like email, website hosting, etc.) run through donations. Their policy states that they are against racism, sexism, militarism, homophobia, and transphobia, and you have to agree to those principles to use their services. Their website and mailing server has been taken down, and unfortunately, that also means my email no longer works. It’s kind of insane how quickly the American government can take down internet services they don’t like. A/I has denied all of the allegations by the Trump admin, and rightfully so, they’re just a digital services provider who respect your privacy and are against fascism and bigotry.
relevant link if you want to read more about this: https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076
I still need to use email, so what’s a good alternative email provider that doesn’t profit off of my data? I have used Disroot in the past and had good experiences with their services, so they are currently my fallback. I have ruled out Proton and Tuta, as neither support IMAP properly.
If you declare an antifascist organization as terrorism you are outing yourself, mate.
The Trump regime is proud of that. They are happy to do all the signalling that they are dill blown fascists short of admitting directly to it. That way there’s enough “reasonable doubt” that they can sell their snake oil to idiots.
Mailboxes are being migrated, you should be able to download it. https://mastodon.bida.im/@cavallette/117173281325105884
I will keep that in mine, thanks!
autistici.org is down in the EU, their domain name does not exist anymore. how did they do that? surely they didn’t use a USA based registrar.
inventati.org seems to be up for now
It’s kind of insane how much control the U.S. has over everything
https://mastodon.bida.im/@cavallette/117172989300228024
@bohwaz @cavallette for once it isn’t Gandi. The .org registry is operated by a US business, who as a result of the sanctions can’t do business with them (autistici)
this is insane and absolutely unacceptable. I guess this is the end of .org and such being a good choice for a domin name. if the operator is not willing to fall in line with the openly fascist USA, they can and will just take you down too
was there at least any legal procedure through Italian courts? or did they just decide to single handedly censor a whole organization?
I imagine it’s the latter, I can’t find anything relating to the Italian government participating in this online
both domains seem to be registered with gandi.net, so it’s interesting only one of them got taken down
Wtf…they are putting these guys in the same bin as daesh and alqaeda…terrorism means nothing anymore. (probably the actual terrorists feel insulted)
Since the UK regime designated Palestine Action a terror group the average arrested terrorist is now a 60 year old white woman.
The amount of repression going on is insane
it is not the same
It’s been like that since the start of the war on terror. The US can label anyone (including US citizens) they want as a terrorist and kill them and their family despite no due process.
It’s honestly deligitimizing the word terrorism.
It’s like the “war on drugs”. The DARE program (an anti-drug program cops run in schools) was the single best promoter of drugs I’ve ever seen. When they tell people all drugs will kill you and thc is just as bad as heroin, when you try a joint or vape for the first time and don’t get immediately addicted or die, you think “well I guess heroin and crack can’t be that bad either”
If you call everything that’s against fascism, bigotry, and hate a “terrorist group” it really makes all the legitimate terrorism extremist groups look much tamer, and less people will think of them as terrorists.
Their website and mailing server has been taken down
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK it has happened. Only yesterday most DNS services allowed it.
Now even OpenNIC blocks it.I’ve been relying on autistici.org for years.
whois autistici.org ... Domain Status: serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited ... URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2026-08-29T11:27:15Z <<<Check out these links, it’s bad:
serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold
clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibitedAnd most importantly
https://icann.org/wicf/I wonder which complaint type is the correct one here?
…wait what all the form links -except the first one - resolve to my.site.com. WTF
edit: blog’s RSS feed: https://cavallette.noblogs.org/feed
Have you dried using a tor browser to access their website?
Yes, same result.
The official statement linked here claims some actual violent terrorists used the services to coordinate attacks ….
Of course it also lists antifa and cop city protesters among them
Actual terror orgs use Google and Microsoft too. Don’t see them bringing Gmail and Outlook offline because of it.
Every email in the trump-Epstein files are from google.
If they’re saying ‘violent terrorists’ and listing antifa and cop city protesters, then they’re saying groups like al-qaeda are on par with protesters, and therefore must not be that bad.
They’re making the word meaningless.
[A/I] are against fascism and bigotry.
There you have it, that’s the definition of terrorism in America in 2026
I guess we’re ignoring all the labeling of antifa as a terrorist organization?
Anything that is mildly popular that goes against the regime will always be labeled “terrorism”
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In addition to A/I, other groups have also been designated as “global far-left terrorists”, like the UK-based Palestine Action (who are against supplying arms to Israel and their genocide in Gaza)
I read their announcement a few days back, where they emphasized their ability to bring services, when taken down, back up pretty quickly. I am not involved in that space, and i am pretty sure that it will be a lot harder to restore services under these circumstances, but are you sure they won’t come back up? They seemed very motivated to brace this storm, even if only to create a testament regarding overcompliance of business entities.
I’ve been happy with mailbox.org so far. They offer full mailbox encryption, but unlike proton still support regular imap and smtp. You just need a mail client that supports pgp en/decryption (thunderbird does, both desktop and android).
I will look at mailbox then, it seems pretty neat!
Proton does support IMAP, though it is through a desktop app. IMAP is weak security since it uses basic authentication, so I’m not sure why you think integrated support for IMAP makes a service better or more secure. A product is only as secure as its weakest link.
There has been a lot of Proton hate recently, much of it being highly misinformed or just looking for reasons to shit on them. I’d love if people could give me real reasons they dislike Proton.
I won’t comment on the Proton thing as the other replies already explained it well.
IMAP is weak security since it uses basic authentication, so I’m not sure why you think integrated support for IMAP makes a service better or more secure.
IMAP does not make it more secure, it makes it so that you can use any email client and aren’t tied in to their proprietary apps, like you are with Proton. You either need their desktop app or their bridge.
IMAP having weak security is not an issue (also I’m not aware that it has, you can use imap with plenty of authentication options), because all of your emails are encrypted if you set it up correctly. Someone could steal my every single transaction with mailbox.org and not be able to do anything with the data.
There has been a lot of Proton hate recently, much of it being highly misinformed or just looking for reasons to shit on them. I’d love if people could give me real reasons they dislike Proton.
Personally I don’t like how they do marketing, it feels scammy. the naming, calling “unlimited” something that isnt, highlighting the more expensive option, playing with text sizes to make the lower number that is less truthful larger, the alwaus visible banner with distracting background color that advertises some timed discount. also the newsletters, I mean in my mailbox its fine, but when I register someone on protonmail, go out of my way to disable the promotional emails, and later they are automatically subscribed to them for new proton products… what do I say with straight face if someone asks me about any of these?
Proton does support IMAP, though it is through a desktop app
And that’s the problem, the requirement for “Proton Bridge” isn’t the greatest. I would rather have proper IMAP support, as the protocol supports PGP encryption if you do need secure communication, which will be intercompatible with other mail services.
I’d love if people could give me real reasons they dislike Proton.
I don’t like how they are pushing people to adopt the Proton “ecosystem” of services that is all tied to a single account, I would rather not have everything in one basket. They also don’t have a Linux client for Proton Drive, so that service is ruled out for me.
Their CEO is also super pro-Trump and pro-GOP, which is always a red flag. The company now states that they are “politically neutral”, but it doesn’t seem like it from some of the comments that Proton (the company) has made, where they are basically saying that “Trump/the Republicans is the great hero against Big Tech that we needed”
How do you feel about Gail Slater?
Well I’m not American, so I have no idea who that is. Just skimming Wikipedia, looks like she served as the Assistant Attorney General of the antitrust division during the second Trump admin, but resigned earlier this year. Dunno anything about her though, so can’t place any assumptions.
She is known for trying to break up monopolies in tech, which is why people were surprised when she was selected by Trump who has tech giant friends. That’s what the proton ceo was praising, Gail Slater being picked. She didn’t last long, presumably because she indeed tried to break up big tech. He was also saying that the Democrats had done very little when they had the chance, because some Democrats are on the side of big tech. This was the controversy, and soon people called proton fascist and what not, and I don’t think it’s entirely fair.
His language of how Trump and the Republicans are their “only chance” to fight Big Tech isn’t great though. People were rightfully pretty mad about this, and Proton (the company) tried to position itself as “apolitical” and distanced themselves from the CEO. Being super pro-Trump is not a great image, especially given how he is financing big tech, promoting whatever makes them the most money, warmongering, and threatening political freedom.
I agree that his language wasn’t great. The appropriate language should have been to either not say anything or at least also criticize Trumps generally corrupt ways. It sounds to me similar to praising the strict animal welfare laws in Germany under the Nazis. I am all for banning vivisection and making animal cruelty illegal. That was a good thing, done by horrible people. If I say those laws were good, it doesn’t mean I’m a Nazi. But still, it wouldn’t look good.
Show me a CEO who isn’t pro-GOP. If you protest every company that has a GOP CEO, you would have to live an Amish lifestyle. It is a fine enough reason to avoid a company, but that in itself does not make their services bad.
Not having all your eggs in one basket is a personal choice, not an objective reason why the company itself or their services are bad. I will acknowledge that if things go sour, it would be a huge PITA to migrate to another service.
Not offering services you need does not make the company bad, though it is a valid reason to seek an alternative that fits your needs. Proton has been working on Linux clients (with ProtonVPN being their latest offering). They will get there one day, I’m sure.
I do agree that Proton Bridge is not the best solution, but it is a solution. I also agree that some solutions aren’t worth the effort or pain, so if Proton Bridge does not work for you, then that is a valid reason to seek something else.
I appreciate you taking the time to actually reply back with your grievances. While it may not appear so in my post, it did give me something to think about.
Show me a CEO who isn’t pro-GOP. If you protest every company that has a GOP CEO, you would have to live an Amish lifestyle.
Well, there are plenty of email services that are not super pro-GOP and pro-Trump. Yes, it is ideal to avoid big corporations, but in many cases you simply don’t have an option (see computers, printers, etc.)
but that in itself does not make their services bad
I’d rather not give them my money though, and I’d rather not use their services if given alternatives
that in itself does not make their services bad.
not an objective reason why the company itself or their services are bad
Not offering services you need does not make the company bad
You keep repeating that their services are not bad, but I don’t think that is true. Everything being tied to one account has an objective downside. The requirement of Proton Bridge for IMAP support is a downside. Somebody else has already mentioned how it won’t work for mobile, meaning you’re forced to use the official client. The lack of a Linux client for Proton Drive is a clear downside for it.
Proton does support IMAP, though it is through a desktop app.
how do you use that on an email client on ypur phone?
IMAP is weak security since it uses basic authentication,
why is that such a big issue when everything is transferred over an encrypted connection? sure, not optimal, but email providers don’t want to adopt more modern standards for some reason.
Proton supports Trump
Riseup email? They provide email and forums for politically active people.
Second riseup. I have used the email service and the VPN for years
I’ve been using Purelymail for a bit over a year now. It’s nothing special, just a cheap email provider with full IMAP and SMTP support so you can use any client you want. You can also connect as many domains as you want, make as many accounts as you want and you have unlimited storage.
Ok so at first we have to look at why they are getting sanctioned and why not let’s says someone like Mullvad is getting sanctioned. Here is the official reasoning:
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
If you are on a platform that endorses terrorists organizations - well you can apply the same reasoning as with a Nazi bar.
You can find EU alternatives for mail here: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/email-providers
If you really had an account on that sanctioned platform I would recommend to wipe everything there and run a GDPR request for data deletion otherwise your data might show up during their next police raid.
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
A/I has denied these claims that the U.S. government has made, they are not terrorists, they merely share communication services for people who are against fascism, racism, militarism, and bigotry of all kinds. The majority of their users are regular people, perhaps activists, and the few that advocate for violence doesn’t make A/I terrorists. I can guarantee you there are more extremists on Gmail than on A/I, more illegal content is distributed through services like Google Drive and MEGA than A/I does, more hate is spread by Medium and Substack compared to A/I’s blog services.
The Trump admin is using the terrorist designation to restrict an organisation that does not agree with their ideology. Antifascism and protest is not terrorism.
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
Congratulations, you drank the propaganda. They do not explicitly know what their customers are doing, because they believe in privacy and everything is encrypted. What they explicitly know is that their “customers” are not capitalists, racists, fascists, sexists, militarists, or authoritarians because they ask during registration. It is not the duty nor the right of a service provider to ensure how its users use their platform, contrary to what you have been told for decades to justify surveillance. It’s not a hard concept: either criminals can get privacy too, or no one can. Sure preventing terrorist attacks is something no one can oppose, but just like that you also silence every journalist, activist and whistleblower that just wants a secure service without Uncle Sam’s hands in it
If you believe the lies in a Trump press release, then you are the most gullible bootlicking fool on the planet.
Or a fascist like his rotting orange half-corpse fuhrer and his braindead lackeys.
They are being sanctioned because the fascists running the US are using their power to disenfranchise antifascists. They offer an opinionated service, quote:“…recognizes and promotes anticapitalism, antiracism, antifascism, antisexism, antimililtarism, and the refusal of authoritarianism and hierarchies.”. They are being sanctioned because providing infrastructure to ideologies outside of those aligned with Trump and his cronies is being construed as “terrorist activitiy”.
Go lick some more fascist boots and fuck off.
Yeah totally expect a simple comment from someone like you after I looked at the instance.
These guys knowingly provide hosting infrastructure for people
- sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands
- sabotaging the Transalpine Pipeline (TAL)
- doing multiple arson attacks and acts of sabotage against Germany’s rail and energy infrastructure (probably referring to “Vulkangruppe”)
Polictical ideology is irrelevant when you knowingly provide a platform for terrorists you will end up in legal trouble.
That entire organisation is also certainly already bugged by police or intelligence services and scheduled for getting taken down soon.
Google provides search results for everything under the sun, legal or not. AWS is used by real terrorists. Microsoft Azure is used in genocides. Palantir is used to prop up the surveillance state. Meta advertises child porn. X is providing communication services for far right groups. I do not see them being designated a terrorist group - providing infrastructure for communication is not the same as being a terrorist.
This designation is not one of “you are harming people”. It is based on “You think the wrong way and therefore you are our enemy”. If you can’t differentiate that, you are either brainwashed or a fascist yourself. Be ashamed, if you are even able to.
Google provides search results for everything under the sun, legal or not
Incorrect. Certain entries can be delisted. Google is e.g. using https://lumendatabase.org/ for that.
I have no idea what this discussion has to do with e. g. Planatir as they don’t provide hosted services to users.
To stay on the topic: non of these services explicitly allow or endorse terroristic content on their platform.
If you can’t differentiate that, you are either brainwashed or a fascist yourself
Such nice words. If everyone is a facist nobody is.
By default they list everything. You can contact them and remove stuff, but by default all the smut, trash and bullshit of the web gets indexed. A/I would remove illegal content too, but this wasn’t even tried. Don’t deflect.
Palantir provides infrastructure, same as the others. They fit well, especially when viewed from the perspective of who you are allowed to provide services to on basis of ideology.
A/I also do not explicitly allow or endorse terroristic content. They provide infrastructure for communication to people, same as any other hoster or mail provider. Only difference is their antifascistic stance and that they have been repeatedly the target of repressive actions.
And no, only the people who attack antifascist infrastructure based on the words of a nazi government - You know, the currrent US administration - are fascists or fascist bootlickers. Need examples?
- Heil Hitlering Musk (just to start off with something graphic)
- Hegseths removal of women and non-white people from positions of power in the armed forces
- Trumps fawning over his “good relations” with every dictator on the planet
- The US voting together with Israel and fucking North Korea in the UN to prevent condemnation of the aggression of Israel in the West Bank
- Ex-Kristi Noems restructuring of ICE and border authorities (forgot their 3-letter-acronym) into the equivalent of the SS, which is being used to stick people with the wrong skin color - sometimes even ignoring citizenship or protected status, while ignoring court orders - into concentration camps before transporting them to autocratic states to dump them into CECOT regardless of being guilty of a crime, and to shoot protesters and PoC
- Vance’s endorsement of groups like the AfD, Orban et. al (AfD has been recognized as an extreme-right organization by the authorities in Germany
- The reconstruction of the DOJ to serve and protect the executive and ignoring orange fuhrers pedophilia
- The infiltration of the supreme court by christofascists
- The blackmailing of TV networks which have comedians critical of Trump on air using the FCC, treatening to pull their licence
- The misuse of military assets for PR stunts involving Kid Rock and iBrainworm Kennedy, leading to the dismissal of peopleinvestigating this event
- The abduction of a foreign head of state to enrich Trump and his buddies
- The witchhunt on minorities like somalians in Minnesota, drag queens and trans people nationwide
- The ignorance of the resulting rise in violence and even murders of PoC, minorities and democrats by far-right groups, because it is a positive thing for them - other countries would have started organized action against this amount of far-right terror.
- The designation of Antifa as a terrorist organization (do you realize who is the only group which sees Antifa as terrorists? I´ll let you in on a secret: the only people who perceive antifa as terrorists are fascists)
- The assault on public education at large and the attempt at rewriting history, trying to color slavery as something positive for PoC
- The bullying of every ally the US ever had on the international stage, similar to how Hitler started bullying the countries surrounding Germany in the leadup to WW2
- The threats of invasion, annexation and exposure of long-term allies to enemy aggression
I could go on far longer, but i do not want to waste more time at you. If you are just a brainwashed, lost soul, stop watching the crap Youtube and Meta are throwing in your face, you are too easily influenced to discern the difference between neonazi propaganda and reality. If you are a true believer in that shit, my condolences go to the part of your family that doesn’t want to have contact with you anymore (probably your kids and ex-wife), and the rest of what i would put here is intentionally self-censored, but you will probably get the gist.
Im not going to read that schizophrenic manifesto. Learn how to communicate properly with people and don’t tell me that a certain US president lives in your walls and there are Nazis on the moon.
Have a nice day.
Lol, an illiterate fascist! You are truly part of the greatest race of all.
For everyone else, i will provide Sartre again:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."
And now we have arrived at the last sentence with this guy:
"If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
this condescending cringy language is why they hate us
They hate us because they are fascists and hate is their core concept. And we’ve seen how much of a fuck they give when we try to converse with them on equal ground over the last decades. Never forget what Sartre said:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Discourse with a fascist is useless in the vast majority of cases. What isn’t useless is to show the inhumanity, selectivity and selfishness of their language when shown in a public forum. Note how they started acting after Walz started naming these people “weird”. They don’t cope well with being shown to be what they really are. Chastising them for being inhuman drekheads and naming things as they are is not “cringy”, it is an imperative.
They hate us because they are fascists
Discourse with a fascist is useless
Ok so everyone is a facist in your opinion… and therefore discussion with everyone is useless.
Idk but that sounds like you have schizophrenia to me.
I am talking about that discourse with fascist is, indeed, useless - your reply just underscored Sartres words perfecty. Thanks for that.
These guys knowingly provide hosting infrastructure for people
- sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands
- sabotaging the Transalpine Pipeline (TAL)
- doing multiple arson attacks and acts of sabotage against Germany’s rail and energy infrastructure (probably referring to “Vulkangruppe”)
Polictical ideology is irrelevant when you knowingly provide a platform for terrorists you will end up in legal trouble.
there is a legal procedure that should happen then, not an immediate takedown! trump’s puppets should contact the Italian authorities, get court approval to request data, if they don’t comply then get the court to seize hardware, or whatever else they do before that. did any of that happen here?
No, it didn’t, because A/I hasn’t broken any laws, just as google doesn’t break any law when indexing neonazi propaganda that is illegal in germany. A/I has been under legal attack more than once, and it is very obvious that it didn’t work, because nothing they do is illegal.
Designating someone as a terrorist in a country where the law and justice mean something should need a previous sentencing for a crime that gives a legal basis for such a designation (aka planning or executing attacks, murders, blackmail, you know, the stuff the current US administration is very guilty of). This designation is the equivalent to sentencing someone to life in prison without any legal defense; the US executive took the place of Jury, Judge and Executioner all at once.
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